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Ordered, That the said Standing Order (Local | 1877 the number of sub-inspectors was Authorities to have a locus standi against Gas reduced. It was again increased last and Water Bills) be a Standing Order of this House,
year; but it was still under what it was
in 1874. The sub-inspectors received LOCAL GOVERNMENT PROVISIONAL ORDERS considerable allowances, and, as a gene(HALIFAX, &c.) BILL.
ral rule, the allowances were not taken On Motion of Mr. HIBBERT, Bill to confirm into account when the pensions were certain Provisional Orders of the Local Govern- being calculated. ment Board relating to the Boroughs of Halifax and Leeds and the City of Manchester, ordered to be brought in by Mr. HINBFRT and Mr. CRIMINAL LAW CASE OF CHARLES Dodson.
FROST AND EDWARD SMITH. Bill presented, and read the first time. (Bill 158.]
MR. WARTON asked the Secretary LOCAL GOVERNMENT PROVISIONAL ORDERS of State for the Home Department, (ACTON, &c.) BILL.
Whether it is his intention in the case On Motion of Mr. HIBBERT, Bill to confirm
of Charles Frost and Edward Smith certain Provisional Orders of the Local Govern- (who were on the 1st of November 1878 ment Board relating to the Local Govern- convicted of burglary, but who being ment Districts of Acton, Buxton, and Cromp- subsequently shown to be innocent reton, the Port of Harwich, the Improvement ceived on the 26th of August 1880 a Act District of Llandudno, the Borough of free pardon) to recommend that they, Monmouth, the Local Government District of Normanton, the Borough of Pontefract, the or either of them, should receive any Local Government District of Wallasey, the compensation or solatium in the shape Borough of Walsall, the Improvement Act Dis- of money or otherwise ? trict of Wath-upon-Dearne, and the Local
SIR WILLIAM HARCOURT, in reBoard of Health District of Woolwich, ordered to be brought in by Mr. Hibbert and Mr. ply, said, that after careful inquiry into Dodson.
this case he had come to the conclusion Bill presented, and read the first time. (Bill 159.] that it was a case of mistaken identity,
and consequently he had advised that a QUESTIONS.
free pardon should be given to those
But he did not find that the cirROYAL IRISH CONSTABULARY - SUB
cumstances of the case brought it within
very rare instances in which com
pensation had been made for the misMR. FAY asked the Chief Secretary carriage of justice. He was happy to to the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, Is it say that, as to one of the men, he had the case that, when the pay of the Irish been able to find employment for him Constabulary was increased in 1872, the in the Public Service, for which the sub-inspectors were the only members man had expressed himself grateful
. of the Force whose work was increased The other man he had heard nothing by the enlargement of their districts, of since. and yet they got the smallest addition to their pay; so small, in fact, that it did not do more than cover the extra CURRENCY_MONETARY CONFERENCE travelling expenses consequent on the AT PARIS-BI-METALLISM. enlarged district; is nearly half the in
MR. THOROLD ROGERS asked the come of Constabulary officers made up First Lord of the Treasury, Whether of " allowances; and, is it the case the mission of Sir Louis Mallet to Paris
, that these " allowances' are ignored who is understood to have gone thither when pensions are calculated, whereas with a view of taking part in the Monoin all other branches of the Civil Ser- tary Conferences, is to be interpreted as vice
the officials have one fixed sum for giving any sanction on the part of Her salary, on the whole of which their pen- Majesty's
Government to the project of sions are calculated ?
conferring a fictitious value on one of MR. W. E. FORSTER was under the metals employed as currency, stood to say it was the case that when of aiding whatever consequences may the pay of the Constabulary was in- reasonably be anticipated from the adop; creased in 1872 the sub-inspectors were tion of what is called “ Bi-metallism ?” the only members of the Force whose MR. GLADSTONE: In answer to work was increased. Between 1874 and the Question of my hon. Friend, what
I have to state is this. The French and question as to the best portable en•
STATE OF IRELAND-ALLEGED
MR. BURT asked the Chief Secretary
lord's place by compulsion, they need not work necessity for making any additional pro- retort from the men to the effect that the agent, posal.
or some one deputed by him, stood over the tenant, armed with a stout cudgel, which he did
not fail to lay on to the back and shoulders of ARMY-PORTABLE ENTRENCHING
the tenant if he showed any signs of shirking TOOLS.
his work. The exclamation • Impossible!'broko SiR BALDWYN LEIGHTON asked | not for one moment realise that such a system
out from both of us involuntarily, as we could tho Secretary of State for War, Whe- of slave-driving could exist. Upjumped ono thor any, and, if so, what, steps have of the men before us, a respectable-looking man been taken with a view to providing enough, who told us that if we had the slightest English infantry regiments or portions and there strip to the skin, and show us undeni
doubt on this matter of the stick, he would then of such regiments with portable en-able evidence of the beatings he had sustained, trenching tools, such as have long been the shape of sundry bruises and discolouration in use in the Austrian and Roumanian which he had received at the hands of the armies; and, if not, whether he can bailiff ;” state the reason why such equipment whether he can confirm, contradict, or is deemed unnecessary or undesirable ? give any information relative to these
MR. CHILDERS: In reply to the statements; and, if they are true, whehun. Baronot, I have to state that this ther he can do anything to afford proquestion has not been neglected. Two tection to these tenants and labourers hundred and eighty-five Roumanian against the infliction of such gross spades were issued last year to eight cruelties and indignities upon them? battalions for trial. Tho reports were MR. W. E. FORSTER: The hon. generally satisfactory; the spade was Member was kind enough to show mo well adapted for use in light soil, but the newspaper from which he has made not in heavy or hard soils. Soventy an extract, and I cannot believe that spades, of a pattern recommended by there is any truth in the statements rethe School of Military Engineering, are ferred to. I have received no informanow being tried in the same battalions. tion, either official or otherwise, which This spade is longer than the other, and tends in the slightest degree to confirm has a different shaped head. A portable them, and I really think the statements spade is included in the proposed equip- appear to be quite incredible. ment for the Infantry soldier, and the MR. T. P. O'CONNOR asked, wheRoumanian spade can be so carried. ther the right hon. Gentleman had reThree thousand spades of this pattern ceived information contradicting those have been sent to South Africa; but the statements ?
MR. W. E. FORSTER: If the House | he can state the number of British sublooks at this Question, it will see that it jects murdered since the 1st of January is utterly impossible for me to have re- 1880, including the officers and crews of ceived such information. The statement the “Ripple," "Esperanza,” “ Lolia,” .
” is that injury has been inflicted on some “Mystery," " Borealis," “Dauntless," persons in the county of Galway. I Annie Brooks," and H.M.S. “Sand. do not suppose that anyone who is in fly,” in the Pacific, and how many of official communication with me is ac- the murderers have been tried at Levuka quainted with everybody in the county or elsewhere? of Galway. We have never received MR. GRANT DUFF: I fear it is but any information which gives us the too true that not a few British subjects slightest reason to believe it is true, and have recently been murdered by savages I do not believe it.
in the Pacific; and if the right hon. and
gallant Admiral will repeat his Question STATE OF IRELAND-RELIGIOUS PRO- some day next week—perhaps on ThursCESSIONS IN BELFAST.
day—I will endeavour to get full par
ticulars for him. MR. BURT asked the Chief Secretary to the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, If
SOUTH AFRICA-THE BASUTOS he can state whether it is true, as re
(NEGOTIATIONS). ported in the Belfast newspapers, that
MR. ASHMEAD-BARTLETT asked three Primitive Methodist Ministers | the Under Secretary of State for the have been summoned before the magistrates of that town and sentenced to Colonies, Whether it is true that the fourteen days' imprisonment for singing Basutos have rejected the terms of
’ hymns and conducting, a procession about to be installed in Cape Town,
peace, that an Africander Ministry is through the streets, though it was proved that a repudiation of British sovereignty by the testimony of the policemen who is imminent in consequence of the geneprosecuted that the procession was most ral disgust at the Transvaal Peace, that orderly and well-behaved ; and, whether, the governor, Sir Hercules Robinson, is
, if this is true, the conviction was legal ; and in any event he will obtain an ex- and that a Colonist of influence is on his
now 1,000 miles away in the Transvaal, planation regarding a sentence apparently extremely severe under the cir- way to England with claims against the
Home Goverment to the amount of cumstances ?
Mr. W. E. FORSTER: I find that £5,000,000 from loyal Colonists who three Primitive Methodist ministers were
are being driven out of the Transvaal ; summoned before the Belfast borough will state what steps they propose taking
and, whether Her Majesty's Government magistrates, under the Borough Act, which provides that any person who to preserve British sovereignty and the shall be guilty of riotous or indecent ten million pounds' worth of yearly trade
between this Country and South Africa ? behaviour shall be liable to a penalty of 40s. In two cases the defendants were heard that the Basutos have rejected the
MR. GRANT DUFF: We have not fined 40s., and in default to be imprisoned terms of peace, nor have we any news 14 days. The case against the third was
from Basutoland. The new Cape Miadjourned, and an appeal is to be heard on the 17th instant. I cannot pronounce one, &c far as we can judge from the lists
nistry seems a very fairly representative any opinion on the legality of the con- which have appeared. A repudiation of viction. I am informed that singing British sovereignty is not imminent. Sir hymns in the public streets, accompanied Hercules Robinson is, I should think, by a large crowd, was considered to be an offence; and I must remind my hon. quite 1,000 miles from Cape Town, Friend and the House that very fre-munication with that place. He is not
though in constant telegraphic comquently crowds and processions in Bel in the Transvaal, but in Natal. We fast have excited serious disturbance.
have heard nothing of the influential
Colonist; and I should regret that any THE ISLANDS OF THE SOUTH PACIFIC Colonist, influential or otherwise, had - MURDER OF BRITISH SUBJECTS.
embarked upon what could hardly be SIR JOHN HAY asked the Under described as “a wise man's errand." Secretary of State for the Colonies, If In reply to the hon. Member's sixth and
last Question, I would say that it will be
LAW AND POLICE - ELIZABETH my duty to answer it pretty fully when the right hon. Gentleman the Member
BURLEY. for East Gloucestershire (Sir Michael
MR. HOPWOOD asked the Secretary Hicks-Beach) makes his intended Mo- of State for the Home Department, Wnetion ; but that to do so now, even in the ther his attention has been called to the most cursory manner, would oblige me letters of Elizabeth Burley and Mr. Alfred to tax the patience of the House to an Dyer, in the “ Daily News” of yesteraltogether intolerable extent.
day, Monday 9th May, the former as
serting her innocence of the conduct FRANCE AND TUNIS-INVASION OF imputed to her, and the latter detailing TUNISIAN TERRITORY.
circumstances and the opinions of others Sir H. DRUMMOND WOLFF asked in confirmation of her assertion; and, the Under Secretary of State for Foreign whether he will deem it right to cause Affairs, Whether any assurance has been inquiry to be made by an impartial pergiven in writing to Her Majesty's Go- son with such care and discretion as an vernment by the French Government to investigation into the character of a the effect that the French Forces will be woman demands ? withdrawn from Tunisian territory as
Sir WILLIAM HARCOURT, in reply, soon as the Kroumir question has been said, if this poor girl were innocent, there disposed of ?
was no doubt that a great wrong had Sir CHARLES W. DILKE: Her been done her, and she was entitled to Majesty's Government have received no entire sympathy and redress; and he written assurance to this effect from the was sure that his hon. and learned Friend French Government; but the French Mi-would not doubt that he was as anxious nister for Foreign Affairs has more than as he was that entire justice should be once disclaimed in his conversations with done to her. When he was questioned Lord Lyons any intention on the part of on this subject, he was bound to answer the French Government to annex Tunis. according to the information which was The latest assurances given to Lord accessible to him. Anyone conversant Lyons by M. Barthélemy St. Hilaire, with this painful class of cases must which were of a very decided character know how difficult it was, in the midst against conquest or annexation, have al- of prejudice by which such cases were ready been made known to Parliament surrounded, to arrive at the exact truth. by my noble Friend, Lord Granville.
When called upon to form a judgment
in this instance, he did not think it right STATE OF IRELAND-ALLEGED OUT. self, or upon the statement of the police,
to rely on the statement of the girl herRAGE AT BALTINGLASS.
both of which would be naturally biassed. MR. M COAN asked the Chief Secre. Ile looked rather to the surrounding tary to the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, circumstances, and to the statements of If he can state to the House the Report unprejudiced witnesses and persons not received from the Irish Police autho- likely to be deceived. In the proceedrities respecting an alleged riot at Balt- ings before the magistrates, the chapinglass on Thursday last, in which, ac- lain, who had acted as the girl's friend, cording to the Dublin correspondence of made a statement which appeared to be the “ Times” of Saturday, many Pro- altogether inconsistent with his belief in testant houses were wrecked, and other her innocence. At the conclusion of the serious outrages committed ? He wished proceedings, one of the magistrates who to add that he had received telegrams heard the case said he had had some contradicting the report, and stating conversation with the unfortunate girl, that it was a case of a few boys throwing and that she had expressed her willingsome stones, the matter being grossly ness to act properly if anything could be exaggerated.
done for her. The Chairman said ho MR. W. E. FORSTER: All I can say “ could do no more.” If the magis is, I have not yet received sufficient in- trates had been of a different opinion, formation with regard to this matter, and they would have condemned the conduct the hon. Member will be kind enough of the police, which they did not do. to repeat the Question on Thursday or His Sir William Harcourt's) position Monday.
was not an easy one. He had, on the
one hand, to take care that no one was MR. SPEAKER: The House has been molested on unjust suspicion, nor, when the witness of the course taken by Mr. justly suspected, that they were harshly Bradlaugh, and my powers in this matter dealt with; but, on the other hand, he being exhausted, I must ask the House had to see that the police were not de- for instructions as to the course to be terred by unfair accusations from the taken, so as to secure the orderly condischarge of a difficult duty. He had duct of Business in this House. already stated that if the girl was not SIR STAFFORD NORTHCOTE: I innocent the police had acted with a do not know, Sir, whether I am to conwant of discretion for which they would clude from the silence of the Leader of be severely reprimanded. If the girl the House and of the Government that was innocent, the case would assume a it is his intention to pursue upon this ocdifferent aspect, and would have to be casion the same course which he pursued dealt with in a different manner. If an upon former occasions. When an inti. innocent girl was pursued with unjust mation is given to me that it is the insuspicion, she was entitled to all the tention of the Leader of the House to reparation that could be afforded her. make any proposal I shall resume my He had already directed that inquiry seat, considering that it is more approshould be made and the facts ascertained priate for bim to take steps to support by all the means at his disposal. If his your authority and the Order of the hon. and learned Friend could suggest House than it is for a private Member. any more effectual manner of dealing But, in the absence of any such intimawith the matter, he should be most tion, I beg to make a Motion, and the happy to co-operate with him for arriving Motion I shall submit to you is thisat the exact truth of the case.
“That the Serjeant at Arms do remove Mr.
Bradlaugh from the House, until he shall enPARLIAMENTARY OATHS (MR. gago not further to disturb the proceedings of BRADLAUGH).
the House." MR. PARNELL rose to put a Ques- It appears to me that this meets the tion to the Chief Secretary for Ireland, case. It is necessary that the Order of when
the House should be preserved. We MR. BRADLAUGH, who had been have no desire to press anything in the standing below the Bar, advanced again shape of penal infliction upon Mr. Brad. to the Table, and, amid cries of " Or- laugh; but we think it absolutely essender!” from Mr. Speaker and the House, tial that we should take steps to preserve said: I am here, Sir, in order that I the peace and order of the House. may fulfil the duty imposed upon me by Law, as a duly elected Member, and take Motion made, and Question proposed, the Oath required by Law.
“That the Serjeant at Arms do remove Jr. MR. SPEAKER: The House has al-Bradlaugh from the House, until he shall enready ordered that Mr. Bradlaugh, upon the House.”—(Sir Stafford Northcote.)
gage not further to disturb the proceedings of presenting himself to take the Oath, should withdraw below the Bar. Until MR. GLADSTONE: I think the right the House has otherwise ordered, I shall hon. Gentleman has made a Motion consider that that Order of the House is which, from his point of view with rein force; and I, therefore, in fulfilment spect to this question, is perfectly conof my duty to this House, call upon Mr. sistent and becoming, and in making Bradlaugh to withdraw.
that Motion he has used language to MR. BRADLAUGH: Most respect- which no one can take exception-lanfully I submit, Sir, that the Order of the guage of which certainly I do not feel House is illegal, and I refuse to obey. that I am at all entitled to complain. I
MR. SPEAKER: In discharge of the am, however, desirous that he should Order of the House, I call upon the distinctly understand the exact naturo Serjeant at Arms to remove Mr. Brad- of the difficulty which leads me, after laugh.
very full reflection, to consider myself The Serjoant at Arms accordingly con- disabled from making such a Motion. ducted him below the Bar.
On the other hand, I do not hold myself MR. BRADLAUGH, standing at the bound to resist the Motion, nor do I Bar: It is my intention to refuse to obey encourage resistance on the part of the Order of the House, as it is illegal. others. On the contrary, I think it is
. Sir William Harcourt