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printing. No good purpose would be answered mark which fell from a gentleman from North by. ii, and he should consider it as expending a Carolina (Mr. Williams.) Is it possible, sir, large sum of money uselessly.

that I understood the gentleman correctly? If I Mr. BAYARD said he would move to refer the did, the gentleman is pleased to remark of the resolution to a select commitiee. His object, he late heads of the departments, and that in a genesaid, was that the documents referred to might be ral and unqualified manner, that they knew very examined, and such parts of them selected and little respecting the duties of their offices, but to published as would, in the opinion of the com- draw warrants on the Treasury for money! Of mittee, be useful. No gentleman pretended to have these officers the gentleman does not profess to read or examined these documents at all. The entertain any expectation that one cent will be gentleman from North Carolina (Mr. R. Wil- recovered; and yet the gentleman says, that he LIAMS) did not pretend that he had read, or knew wishes the documents to be printed, in order to what the documents contained, and yet he was hold them up to public detestation, even if the willing to incur an expense of ien thousand dol- expense should be ten or twenty thousand dollars! lars to print them.

What, sir! are we to 'expend ten or twenty thouMr. R. Williams said that he had been called sand dollars to purchase public detestation? And upon to assigh his motives for having these docu- for whom? For officers whom gentlemen do not ments printed. He was williog to do so. They pretend have embezzled one cent of public treasrelated to the expenditure of public money, and ure. For, in the same moment in which the genhe thought we ought always to be informed of tleman expresses his willingness to expend this the manner in which that is done. These docu- large sumn, to excite public indignation against ments had been transcribed for the use of this these officers, he acknowledged that no money is House, and would be useless unless printed. But, to be recovered from them. If any has been emsir, I have another reason: these officers, who bezzled, it surely can be recovered. That gentleknow very little respecting their duty, excepting man was himself a member of the investigating how to draw warrants on the Treasury for money, committee, so called. Of course, he has examhave passed through their hands large sums of ined the accounts of the officers under the late public money. I do not know that we can get Administration. If any moneys have been emany of it back again ; but I would at least hold bezzled, why has not that gentleman, in his place, them up to public detestation.

brought forward some proposition to have them But why do gentlemen feel alarmed? The gen- called to account for those moneys? This would tleman from Delaware seems afraid that these give them an opportunity to justify themselves, accounts should be made public, and therefore or be condemned. But this is not done. Many opposes the printing of the documents.

gentlemen, and particularly the chairman of the Mr. Nicholson said that one part of the docu- investigating committee, (Mr. Nicholson.) had ments moved to be printed were connected with the candor, last session, publicly to state, that he the report of the investigating committee, so called; did not believe that one dollar of public money, the other was not. As to that report, he wanted had, by these officers, been applied to their own no explanation of his conduct on that subject. private use; and, indeed, the whole charge which The report was printed, and must speak for itself. now lies against any of them, is applying money He would not consent to publish ihe documents to objects to which it had not been specially apby way of answer to gentlemen who were incul- propriated ; and this charge seems to be much paied by that report. It was true that large bal- diminished by the manner in which the present ances appeared upon the books unsettled"; that Administration have found it necessary to conthose balances were due, he did not pretend to sider specific appropriations. The result of all say; por did the report so state it. Upon the late this is, according to the doctrine of the gentleman Quartermaster General's account there appeared from North Carolina, (Mr. Williams,) that men to be a balance of $800,000. Those accounts had have been employed in public stations, public not been settled by that officer. I do not mean to money has gone through their hands; they have charge him with having improperly expended faithfully applied it 10 public uses, and done their money. I am not in the habit of making such duty; we refuse to commence any suit against charges unless possessed of proof to support them. them, or give them any opportunity to be heard, But ihose accounts, I believe, have not been set- and yet it is publicly stated, on the floor of this tled to this day.

House, by a member of the investigating commitThere were also sundry contracts which had tee, that they know very little about their duty, been entered into by the Navy Department, re- excepting how to draw warrants on the Treasury specting which some complaint had been made. for money! Let me ask gentlemen if this is fair ? He said that he was not, perhaps, technically cor- Is it candid? Is it doing by those men, as, rect in saying that these documents related only under like circumstances, we would be willing to the expenditure from the contingent funds of to be done by ourselves? I have no partiality, the depariments, but he believed he was substan- sir, to the men. I was not in the Government tially correct.

until all went out of office, and am scarcely perMr. T. Morris made some remarks which were sonally known to any of them. But, sir, I think not distinctly heard.

the characters of all men, and more especially Mr. Goddard rose and said, that he could not faithful public servants, ought to be held too sacred but express his surprise and astonishment at a re- to be thus sported with.

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But, sir, while I am upon this subject, let me the public offices, and heard the answers to the ask, what has become of the zeal which was dis- inquiries which were made, and examined the played at the last session respecting the business accounts. That of the Quartermaster General had of this investigating committee ? That report was been mentioned, and a balance of $800,000 stated then said to be but in part. Some gentlemen pro- as unsettled against him. Mr. G. said, with reposed giving the committee power to sit during spect to that, no one pretended it was due. That the recess of Congress. The partial report was officer had presented for settlement accounts to made at the close of the last session. The sub. balance it, and perhaps more than enough; but, ject has been permitted quietly to rest until the as he understood, the settlement was impeded on last days of this session. Not a word has been account of some boats which were sold and not said on this subject. No further progress made accounted for to the satisfaction of the accountin reporting, and we are, at this late hour, called ant of the War Department. When this difficulty on to expend thousands of dollars, not to look up was done away, nothing would prevent a setilepublic treasures which have been squandered, but ment of his accounts. io purchase public detestation for faithful officers. Mr. Nicholson explained. He said he did not But, Mr. Speaker, I mean not, by the remarks undertake to state the nature of the difficulties which I have made, to oppose the printing of the respecting the settlement of the accounts of the documents. I am aware, sir, what construction late Quartermaster General; but he must say, would be put upon such an opposition from such that he did not understand that they were of the a quarter.

nature stated by the gentleman from Connecticut, The gentleman from North Carolina has al-(Mr. Griswold,) but of a different kind. ready seized, with avidity, upon the remarks Mr. S. Smith said, that two reasons had been which have been made against printing them by stated for printing these documents; one was, that the gentleman from Delaware, (Mr. BAYARD.) certain officers might be held up to public detestHe says that we are afraid to have them pub-ation; but will this answer the purpose of gentlelished, and this is the language which others will men ? He believed not. One party might behold on the subject. We have gone too far, sir, lieve their statements; the other might disbelieve to recede. It is stated, by the gentleman from them. But can you criminate any of those offiMaryland, (Mr. Smith,) that the documents have cers? If not, all public detestation would be already cost us more than five thousand dollars, taken away and subside, and perhaps a contrary and although that gentleman is probably correct, effect be produced. Another reason which had when he says that they will be useless if printed, been slated was to place before us certain conyet that ought to have been considered before they tracts made by the Navy Department, under the were called for. Having called for them, unless former Administration, respecting the purchase of they are printed, they are certainly useless. I timber, and respecting which, complaint had been wish not to screen public defaulters, if any there made.' With respect to that subject, he was able are, from justice; I know little respecting these to state to the House, that those contracts were

highly injurious to the individuals who had made If they have embezzled public money, we owe them ; so much so, that, in every instance, exceptit to ourselves, and to our constituents, to in- ing one, application had been made to the Navy quire into it. If, on the other hand, they have Department by those individuals, to be released been faithful and honest, we owe it to thein, after from their contract. In one instance a man had proceeding thus far, to publish those documents, made iwo contracts, one of which he deemed adihat they may, as í fully believe that they will, vantageous, the other not so. He was offered to wholly exculpate them from these unjust and un- have both contracts given up, but refused. In all generous insinuations.

others, they had been injurious to the individuals, Mr. Griswold rose and was beginning to com- and, in some instances, persons had been almost ment on the remarks of Mr. R. Williams, when wholly ruined by these contracts with the Navy Mr. W. rose and requested liberty to explain. Department.

Mr. Williams remarked, thai one gentleman But why should we expend this money in printfrom Connecticut had commented upon what he ing this mass of papers. Gentlemen say, to give said, and he had not interrupted him; but when them publicity. Printing will not do it. Notody another gentleman was proceeding in the same will read them when printed. They are mere manner, he wished to say that he had not made transcripts from the books of the departments

, the observations attributed to him respecting all and are very voluminous. No one had examthe officers who had, under the former Adminis- ined them, or could state what they contained. If tration, been entrusted with public money. He there are any parts of them which would implisaid some of them, &c.

cate the late officers of Government, or any of Mr. Griswold proceeded and said, that unless them, he doubted not but thal the gentleman from the gentleman saw fit to point out to whom his North Carolina, (Mr. Williams,) knowing his remarks applied, he did not see that he had very duty, would, in his place, bring forward an inmuch qualified them. Mr. G. said that he was quiry, which should be calculated to recover back also a member of the investigating committee, money. But will you get any ? No, not even and although he did not concur in the report, or the expense of printing the documents. Mr. S. know what it contained until it was ready to be concluded by expressing his decided disapprobapresented to the House, yet he was frequently attion of printing ihe documents.




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Mr. Bayard repelled the insinuation which to all future proceedings to be had on two bills, had been made by Mr. W. at some length. He which have passed this House and the Senate, stated his recollection of the account of the Quar- one entitled “An act making further provision termaster General to be similar to that of Mr. for the expenses attending the intercourse beGRISWOLD, and also stated that the Committee tween the United States and foreign nations," were informed last year by the accountant of the and another, entitled "An act for extending the Navy Department that the sum which would be external commerce of the United States," be finally lost upon the settlement of all the accounts taken off

. And the question being taken therein that department, would be very inconsiderable; upon, it was resolved in the affirmative. and expressed his wish that the documents should Mr. John C. Smith, from the Committee of be examined by a select committee, and such parts Claims, to whom was referred, on the eleventh only printed as would be useful.

instant, the petition of Oliver Pollock, presented When, after a few remarks from Mr. Holland, the tenth of February, one thousand eight hunthe question on the resolution was taken and car- dred and two, made a report thereon; which was ried-yeas 38, nays 28, as follows:

read, and ordered to be referred to the Committee YEAsWillis Alston, John Archer, John Bacon, of the whole House to whom was committed, on Thomas Boude, Robert Brown, Samuel J. Cabell, John the fifteenth instant, the report of a select comCampbell, Thomas Claiborne, William Dickson, Lucas mittee" on the expediency of extending the time Elmendorf, Calvin Goddard, Roger Griswold, William for the settlement of claims for services rendered, Barry Grove, Joseph Heister, David Holmes, George furnished, during the Revolutionary Jackson, Michael Leib, Samuel L. Mitchill, Thomas war.” Morris, James Mott, Anthony New, Joseph H. Nich- Resolved, That there be a call of the House toolson, Thomas Plater, John Randolph, jr., Nathan Read, day at four o'clock, post meridian. John Smilie, John Suaith, of Virginia, Henry Southard, Resolved, That when this House adjourns, it John Stanley, Joseph Stanton, John Stewart, John will adjourn until Monday morning next, ten Taliaferro, jr., Samuel Tenney, Samuel Thatcher, Lem- o'clock. uel Williams, Robert Williams, Richard Winn, and The House resolved itself into a Committee of Thomas Wynns.

the Whole on the bill for the relief of Joshua Nars—Theodorus Bailey, James A. Bayard, Phan- Harvey and others; and after some time spent nel Bishop, Richard Brent, William Butler, John Da- therein, the bill was reported with several amendvenport, John Dawson, Ebenezer Elmer, William Eustis, John Fowler, John A. Hanna, William Helms, with the said bill, ordered to be recommitied to

ments thereto: which were read, and, together William Hoge James Holland, Benjamin Huger, Thomas Moore, Israel Smith, John Cotton Smith, Josiah Mr. BAYARD, Mr. Nicholson, and Mr. Brent.

The House resolved itself into a Committee of Smith, Samuel Smith, David Thomas, Thomas Tillinghast, Philip R. Thompson, Abram Trigg, John Trigg, the Whole on the amendatory bill more effectualPhilip Van Cortlandt, Joseph B. Varnum, and Peleg ly to provide for the organization of the Militia Wadsworth.

of the District of Columbia; and, after some time A motion was then made and seconded, that the spent therein, the bill was reported with an amendHouse do now adjourn; and the question being

ment which was twice read, and agreed to by the

House. taken thereupon, there appeared-yeas 28, nays 24, as follows:

Ordered, That the said bill, with the amendYEAS—Willis Alston, Theodorus Bailey, Phanuel Monday next.

ment, be engrossed, and read the third time on Bishop, Richard Brent, John Campbell, Thomas Clai

The House resolved itself into a Committee of borne, John Condit, Samuel W. Dana, William Dick- the Whole on the report of the Committee of son, Peter Early, Ebenezer Elmer, William Eustis, Ways and Means, of the eleventh instant, to whom Heister, William Helms, David Holmes, Thomas Moore, was referred a memorial of sundry sugar refiners James Mott, Joseph H. Nicholson, Nathan Read, John of the city of Baltimore, in the State of Maryland; Smilie, John Smith, of Virginia, Richard Stanford, Sam- and, after some time spent therein, the committee del Tenney, Isaac Van Horne, and Thomas Wynns.

rose and reported to the House their agreement Nars—John Archer, John Bacon, Robert Brown, to the resolution contained therein, with an amendWilliam Butler, Samuel J. Cabell, Matthew Clay, John ment; which was twice read, and agreed to by Clopton, Richard Cutts, John Dawson, Lucas Élmen- the House. dorf

, John Fowler, Michael Leib, David Meriwether, The said resolution, as amended, being twice Samuel L. Mitchill, Thomas Newton, jr., John Ran- read at the Clerk's table, was, on the question put dolph, jr., Samuel Smith, John Stanley, Joseph Stanton, thereupon, agreed 10 by the House, as follows: John Stewart, John Taliaferro, jr., Philip R. Thompson, Resolved, That no internal duty shall be colAbram Trigg, and Joseph B. Varnum.

lected on sugars removed from the refinery since Whereupon, the House adjourned.

the thirtieth day of June, eighteen hundred and two; any law to the contrary notwithstanding:

Ordered, That a bill or bills be brought in, purSATURDAY, February 26.

suant to the said resolution; and that the ComOn motion, the House was cleared of all persons, mittee of Ways and Means do prepare and bring except the members and the Clerk: Whereupon, in the same. a motion was made and seconded that the injunc- Mr. Randolph, from the Committee of Ways tion of secrecy upon the members, so far as relates and Means, presented, according to order, a bill

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for the relief of the sugar refiners within the Uni-instructed, by a resolution of this House of the ted States; which was read iwice and committed lwenty-eighih ultimo, “ to digest some plan by to a Comunittee of the whole House on Monday which it can be ascertained what quantity of

surveyed or patented land belonging to the officers The House proceeded to consider the amend and soldiers of Virginia, on Stale and Continental ments reported yesterday from the Committee of establishments, was ceded to the Cherokee Indians, the Whole to the bill to reduce the Marine Corps by the treaty of Holstein, of the second of July, of the United States; and, the said amendments one thousand seven hundred and ninety-one. being severally twice read, were, on the question made a report thereon; which was read: Whereput thereupon, agreed to by the House.

upon, Ordered, That the said bill, with the amend- Ordered, That the consideration of the said rements, be engrossed, and read the third time on port be postponed until Monday next. Monday next.

On motion, it was Resolved, That the call of the House, directed Resolved, That the Secretary of State be dito be on this day, at four o'clock, post meridian, rected to transmit, under his frank, to each membe postponed for half an hour.

ber of the Senate and of the House of RepresentThe House resolved itself into a Committee of atives of the United States of the present Congress, the Whole on the report of the Committee of a copy of the laws of the present session of CooClaims, of the sixteenth instant, on the memorial gress, as soon as the same may be printed. of Paul Coulon; and, after some time spent there- A memorial of sundry citizens of the Territory in, the Committee rose and reported their agree- of Columbia was presented to the House and read, ment to the resolution contained therein; which stating their approbation of the provisions conwas twice read, and agreed to by the House, as tained in a bill now depending before this House, follows:

for the government of the said Territory; and Resolved That there be paid to Paul Coulon, as praying that the same may be passed into a law agent for the captors of the ship Betty Cathcart, during the present session of Congress.-Referred and brig Aaron, prizes to the French privateer

FRENCH SPOLIATIONS. La Bellone, out of any moneys in the Treasury, not otherwise appropriated, the sum of six thou- Mr. BAYARD moved that the House do now sand two hundred and forty-one dollars and forty- resolve itself into a Committee of the whole four cents, being the amount retained by the Trea- House on a motion of the thirty-first ultimo, "for sury Department from the sales of the ship Betty indemnifying the citizens of the United States, Cathcart, for duties on the cargo of the brig Aaron. who, in carrying on a lawful trade to foreign

Ordered, That a bill or bills be broughi in, pur-parts, have suffered losses by the seizure of their suant to the said resolution; and that the Com- property, made by unauthorized French cruisers, mittee of Claims do prepare and bring in the same. or by any French cruiser, without sufficient cause, si

The bill sent from the Senate, entitled "An to which Committee of the whole House was also act to alter the time of holding the court of the referred, on the second instant, the report of a select United States in Kentucky district, was read three committee, made the twenty-second of April last, times and passed.

on "the memorials and petitions of sundry citiThe House resolved itself into a Committee of zens of the United States, and resident merchants the Whole on the bill to alter and discontinue therein, praying relief, in the case of depredations certain post roads, and for other purposes; and, committed on their vessels and cargoes, while in after some time spent therein, the Committee rose pursuit of lawful commerce, by the cruisers of the and reported progress.

French Republic, during the late European war;" Resolved, That the call of the House, directed It passed in the negative-yeas 21, nays 48, as to be on this day, at half past four o'clock, in the follows: afternoon, be postponed until eleven o'clock in the Yeas—John Bacon, James A. Bayard, John Campmorning on Monday next.

bell, Samuel W. Dana, William Eustis, Calvin GodMr. Bayard, from the committee to whom was, dard, Roger Griswold, Seth Hastings, William H. this day, recommitted the bill for the relief of Hill, Benjamin Huger, Samuel Hunt, Samuel L. Josiah Harvey, and others, reported an amenda- Mitchill, Thomas Morris, Thomas Plater, Nathan tory bill; which was read' twice, and ordered to Read, John Cotton Smith, Samuel Tenney, Samuel be engrossed, and read the third time on Monday Thatcher, George B. Upham, Peleg Wadsworth, and next.

Lemuel Williams. Mr John Cotton Smith, from the Committee

Nays — Willis Alston, John Archer, Theodorus of Claims, presented a bill for the relief of Paul Bailey, Phanuel Bishop, Richard Brent, Robert Brown, Coulon ; which was read twice, and committed John Clopton, John Condit, William Dickson, Peter

William Butler, Samuel J. Cabell, Thomas Claiborne, to a Committee of the whole House immediately. Early, Lucas Elmendorf, Ebenezer Elmer, Andrew

The House, accordingly, resolved itself into the Gregg, Daniel Heister, Joseph Heister, William Helms, said committee; and, after some time spent there William Hoge, James Holland, George Jackson, Miin, the bill was reported to the House, without chael Leib, David Meriwether, Thomas Moore, James amendment.

Mott, Anthony New, Thomas Newton, jr., John RanOrdered, That the said bill be engrossed, and dolph, jr., John Smilie, Israel Smith, John Smith, of read the third time on Monday next.

New York, John Smith, of Virginia, Henry Southard, Mr. SOUTHARD, from the committee who were | Richard Stanford, Joseph Stanton, John Stewart, John

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Taliaferro, jr., David Thomas, Philip R. Thompson, being put, that the farther consideration thereof
Abram Trigg, John Trigg, Philip Van Cortlandt, be postponed until to-morrow, it was resolved in
Joseph B. Varnum, Isaac Van Horne, Robert Williams, the affirmative.
Richard Winn, and Thomas Wynns.

The House proceeded to consider the amendment proposed by the Senate to the bill, entitled

"An act in addition to the act, entitled 'An act MONDAY, February 28.

concerning the registering and recording of ships An engrossed bill for the relief of Joshua Har- and vessels of the United States,' and to the act, vey, and others, was read the third tiine, and passed. entitled 'An act to regulate the collection of du

An engrossed bill for the relief of Paul Coulon ties on imports and tonnage:" Whereupon, was read the third time, and passed.

Resolved, That this House doth agree to the An engrossed bill more effectually to provide said amendment. for the organization of the militia of the District The House proceeded to consider the amendof Columbia was read the third time, and passed. ments proposed by the Senate to the bill, entitled

Resolved, That the call of the House directed "An act making appropriations for the support of by a vote of Saturday last, to be on this day, at Government, for the year one thousand eight eleven o'clock in the morning, be postponed until hundred and three:" Whereupon, four o'clock, post meridian.

Resolved, That this House doth agree to the Ordered, That the Committee of Claims, to said amendments. whom were recommitted, on the twenty-sixth in- The bill sent from the Senate, entitled "An stant, a Message from the President of the United act to alter the time for the next meeting of ConStates, and sundry accompanying documents, in gress," was read twice and committed to a Comthe case of the Danish brigantine called the Hen- mittee of the whole House to-morrow. rick, have leave to report thereon by bill, or bills, An engrossed bill for reducing the marine corps or otherwise.

was read a third time, and, on the quesiion of its Mr. J. C. Smith, from the same committee, re- passage, Mr. Huger moved its postponement to ported a bill to enable the President of the United ihe first Monday in November; which motion States to make restitution to the owners of the was lost-ayes 32, noes 40. Danish brigantine called the Henrick; which was Mr. Thatcher then spoke against the passage read twice and committed to a Committee of the of the bill. whole House 10-day.

The question was then taken, and decided in Mr. Randolph from the Committee of Ways the affirmative-ayes 45, noes 35. and Means, who were instructed by a resolution Mr.J.C. Smith, from the Committee of Claims, of this House of the twenty-eighth ultimo, “ to in- reported a bill enabling the President to make quire into the expediency of suspending, for a limit- such restitution as he may deem proper to the ed time, the collection of all debts or duties due to owners of the Danish brig Hendrick, and approthe United States from the citizens of the States priating $40,000 for that purpose. of Tennessee, Ohio, and Kentucky: and the citi- The House went into a Committee on the bill. zens of the Indiana and Mississippi Territory, Mr. Bayard declared himself, from the want of made a report thereon; which was read, and information. unprepared to vote on the bill. ordered to be referred to a Committee of the whole Messrs. J. C. Smith and RANDOLPH replied, House to-morrow.

and defended the bill. A message from the Senate informed the House The Committee rose, and reported the bill withthat the Senate have passed the bill, entitled out amendment. "An act in addition to the act, entitled 'An act The House immediately took up the report. concerning the registering and recording of ships Mr. Bayard moved to postpone it till ihe, first and vessels of the United States," and to the act, Monday in November. entitled "An act to regulate the collection of du- This motion was supported by Messrs. BAYARD, ties on imports and tonnage,” with an amendment; Davis, GRISWOLD, Dana, and Eustis; and opto which they desire the concurrence of this posed by Messrs. 'J. C. Smith, S. Smith, and House. The Senate have also passed a bill, en- RANDOLPH. titled "An act to alter the time for the next meet- The motion was lost-ayes 24, noes 35. ing of Congress ;" to which they desire the con- The bill was ordered to be engrossed for a third currence of this House.

reading to-morrow-ayes 38. A message from the Senate, informed the House

PERSONAL EXPLANATION. that the Senate have passed ihe bill, entitled "An act making appropriations for the support of Gov- Mr. Holland said he wished to state to the ernment, for ihe year one thousand eight hundred House some circumstances which were important and three,” with several amendments; to which to himself, however unimportant they might be to they desire the concurrence of this llouse. the public. It would be recollected that he had

Órdered, That the said bill be engrossed, and some days since obtained leave of absence after read the third time to-morrow.

this day for the remainder of the session. On An engrossed bill for settling sundry claims to Saturday evening he was informed that it had the public lands of the United States south of been insinuated that he had been guilty of an imthe State of Tennessee was read the third time: proper disclosure. Under this imputation he was Whereupon, a motion was made, and the question not willing to leave the House." If any gentle

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