Mr. BURDETTE. We have been doing that regularly; in fact, annually we ask the posts to justify magazines which they are reordering. Senator SMITH of Maine. You depend on the evaluation from the field. Do you report that into Washington and Washington reevaluates it?

Mr. BURDETTE. We do it in that fashion and we do it also through the use of our evaluation program in the agency generally.

Senator SMITH of Maine. Do you have a check as to the number of people coming in and actually using the room?

Mr. BURDETTE. We do. Between 40 and 50 million a year in our total program.

BOOK TRANSLATION PROGRAM

Senator SMITH of Maine. You told us something about the book translation program. I think you told us how much you were spending for this program and how effective it was.

Will you tell us over again, Mr. Streibert?

Mr. STREIBERT. The one project I spoke of was $800,000, which was turned down completely in the House report. That is a part of an increase in translations as against the current year of a total of $979,000, so the remaining $179,000 would be for the general translation program.

Senator SMITH of Maine. You are reevaluating this program all the time, too?

Mr. STREIBERT. Yes; and we find that every time we do we feel we should do more of it.

CHINESE LANGUAGE TEXTBOOKS

One of the items specifically included in this is some three hundred thousand copies of Chinese language textbooks for use in secondary schools where Chinese students are attending to overcome the Chinese Communist penetration of these schools by their textbooks.

CRITERIA USED TO SELECT BOOKS FOR LIBRARIES

Senator SMITH of Maine. What is the present criteria in selecting the books for the overseas libraries?

Mr. STREIBERT. The policies established by my predecessor, Dr. Johnson, and promulgated on July 15, 1953.

QUESTIONED EVALUATION OF NEWSPAPER SUBSCRIPTION PROGRAM

Senator ELLENDER. There is one question I would like to ask about evaluating some of these programs. I noticed in quite a few places where we were paying for subscriptions to many newspapers, like the New York Times.

Mr. STREIBERT. To be sent to various people.

Senator ELLENDER. Yes. Of course, I find in many instances you are furnishing this newspaper to people who are well able to purchase them. Now, do you evaluate this program with a view of trying to get those who get them free to subscribe for them, pay for them, buy them instead of accepting them as a donation from us?

Mr. STREIBERT. We are in this kind of process: We are now going over those complete lists. I just had that subject up with the ambas

sadors of the north countries where there was a conference in Copenhagen on April 26 and 27. They want much more of it.

Now, whether the person can pay for it or not, they want to get our American newspaper into certain key Government officials.

At the expiration of current subscriptions we doublechecked with our public affairs officers. Now, we have done it too widely we think, and too narrowly in some areas, notably France and England.

We are going to try to spread more of those subscriptions to the Near East and to India and Teheran where we can get airplane delivery.

This whole question is not properly settled because it has been on a centralized basis in the past. It was done essentially in Europe by ECA and MSA.

Senator ELLENDER. And you have continued it?

Mr. STREIBERT. And we have continued it and are through the next fiscal year, because the subscriptions are up now and are being renewed out of this fiscal year's funds at the end of this fiscal year.

However, beginning in 1955, these subscriptions costs will be borne and charged to each individual country and each individual public-affairs officer will be charged with the direct responsibility of spending his funds either that way or some other way.

That is out of so much money, he can either buy so many subscriptions or use the money in another way.

Senator ELLENDER. He is one of your employees?

Mr. STREIBERT. Yes, but he is the fellow that can really decide whether he would rather have the Times going to a number of Government officials, who might be able to pay for it themselves, or not. We take a chance on it.

NEWSPAPER SALE PROGRAM IN PARIS

Senator ELLENDER. Take, for instance, in Paris, you have an edition of the New York Times and Herald Tribune. Now, are those the papers you use to distribute, or are they sent from our country?

Mr. STREIBERT. No, they are the European editions of both papers. Because we want them as timely as possible. It is the Times, your European edition, and the Paris edition of the Herald Tribune.

Senator ELLENDER. You propose to continue this sale program in Europe, let us say, through fiscal 1955?

Mr. STREIBERT. Yes, through fiscal 1955.

Mr. NORDNESS. I would like to add one point here. We have discussed the distribution of these papers with the advertising and circulation managers of the papers. They usually follow up on the people to whom we have delivered the paper to see if they will renew the subscription on their own.

We are doing that in practically every country in Europe. In addition they also put in special pages of political and economic events that we feel is of interest and will be of interest to those readers.

Senator ELLENDER. How successful have you been in finding out the number of subscriptions that are renewed by the people who received them in the past?

Mr. NORDNESS. They have not revealed those figures but they have had a general increase in a number of the countries.

I spoke to them on this matter in November, but have not been in contact with them since.

Senator ELLENDER. Those general increases, though, are to people who subscribe other than those to whom you give it free?

Mr. NORDNESS. Some of those to whom we gave free subscriptions have subscribed, but others to whom we gave them free are of educational classes or at various levels of the Government and do not have funds to pay for extra papers in addition to those they buy in their own country.

Senator SMITH of Maine. Do you know anything of the discontinuing of a publication if it is not being used in the library?

Mr. NORDNESS. Mr. Streibert.

Mr. STREIBERT. At the expiration of a subscription there is an evaluation on that and the library under the authority of the public affairs officer in the country has to certify that they want it renewed before it is renewed. If there is no such request for it, it is not renewed. I would like to emphasize, sir, for your peace of mind a little about it, that the Ambassador in some of these Scandinavian countries, all of them, want more of the subscriptions to those people so that they get United States news. They feel it is a very effective medium of acquainting the government people they are dealing with on American

Senator ELLENDER. I appreciate the pressure being brought to bear on them by people who want those papers. I am familiar with that. It is a good medium to spread American doctrine, but I think some of those people

PERCENTAGE REDUCTION IN NEWSPAPER SUBSCRIPTION PROGRAM

Mr. STREIBERT. Let me try something else. We are reducing the total for the next go-around by 20 percent.

Senator ELLENDER. What you should at least do is stop the delivery of papers to, let us say, a certain group that receives it for 6 months and give it to another group and then find out if those people who have been using it will subscribe. I think in that way you will get more people to use them.

Mr. STREIBERT. You get ill will by starting and stopping it.

Senator ELLENDER. You get ill will on any of these programs when you curtail or cut them.

Senator SMITH of Maine. Is the personnel of the information centers and libraries all American personnel?

Mr. STREIBERT. No; it is local nationals employed in the libraries. We have too few American librarians in our library system.

JUSTIFICATION OF CENTERS IN ENGLAND

Senator SMITH of Maine. How many information centers do you have in England?

Mr. STREIBERT. I think it is three. London, Edinburgh, and Manchester.

Senator SMITH of Maine. Do you think those are important to the English-speaking countries?

Mr. STREIBERT. Well, I discussed that with the present public affairs officer. We do, or we would not have them there.

Now, you have a large information center maintained by the British in New York City as an example of the opposite. We find that the library which I saw there in London is used by people widely who want information about the United States and material that we have. We think it is important that that be made available.

Senator SMITH of Maine. What is the overall cost of operation in England?

EUROPEAN INFORMATION CENTERS

Senator ELLENDER. Madam Chairman, I wonder if we could get them to place in the record at this point the number of information centers in each of the European countries and the cost of operating them.

Senator SMITH of Maine. Will you do that, Mr. Streibert, please? (The information referred to follows:)

Estimated cost for information center activities in Europe for fiscal year 1954

1 Excludes rent, utilities, and building operating costs for information centers since leases normally include costs for USIS office space as well as information center space and such costs are not susceptible to segregation. Except Germany which has $348,000 included under local operating costs.

Not available.

Includes local translations, special collections of books for presentation purposes, exhibits, Englishteaching activities and salaries of Americans and locals.

Mr. STREIBERT. For Great Britain for the current fiscal year, $137,000 is the library cost.

Senator SMITH of Maine. Does that include rent and everything, salaries and rent?

Mr. STREIBERT. That would include all the salaries and directly applicable expenses; yes.

Senator ELLENDER. Those are information centers you are talking about?

Mr. STREIBERT. That is right.

Senator ELLENDER. That amount includes the administration of them and all the books?

Mr. STREIBERT. That is the direct cost.

Senator ELLENDER. What about the pamphlets, the books, and so forth, you furnish them? Is that included in that figure?

Senator SMITH of Maine. Mr. Streibert, if you will get for the record for the committee hearing, the number of centers, their location, and the personnel, break it down as to Americans and locals for each country.

Mr. STREIBERT. Yes.

Senator SMITH of Maine. We will appreciate it very much.

Mr. STREIBERT. For the current fiscal year?

Senator SMITH of Maine. Yes.

Mr. STREIBERT. Yes.

(The information referred to follows:)

List of information centers, by country and location including American and local

personnel