Q. How long have you been acquainted with the apparent size of a pint bottle; ten years? A. I should judge so.

Q. Did you have a pint bottle with you on that occasion to take the milk of that cow as a sample? A. I had bottles of about a pint, I suppose.

Q. Was there any of that milk left when you took that milk, that you saw, of the black cow? A. I believe my brother has got the book that I refer to, with my notes in it; if you will allow me to have that.

Q. Did you take all the milk in the bottle, of that cow, which you had at that time? A. I did.

Q. It all went into that bottle? A. It did.

Q. Would that bottle hold more than a pint? A. I think if anything probably a little more.

Q. Would it hold a pint and a half? A. I think not.

Q. Did not you know how much that bottle held when you were here on Friday? A. I did, sir.

Q. Do you know the difference between the milk of cows and strippers so called?

(Objected to; objection overruled.)

A. I do not know as I could give a definition.

Q. Do you know there is a difference? A. I naturally suppose there would be, there must be.

Friday? A. I knew as much about

Q. Did you know that on
know that on Friday?

it then as I do now.

Q. Did you state here that that was a healthy cow, the black cow? A. As far as I could judge.

Q. In a normal condition, did you state that? A. I believe you asked me the question whether the cow was a healthy cow and I said she looked like a healthy cow, if I remember rightly; I do not profess to be a veterinary surgeon or anything of that kind.

Q. Was she a healthy cow as far as you could judge? A. She was. Q. Was her milk the milk of a healthy cow? A. It seemed to

me so.

Q. Were you able to strain it without breaking up the curds in it? A. The milk was poured into the strainer and it ran through. Q. Did it all run through? A. All except the dirt that would naturally collect in the ordinary milk.

Q. Was there any white scum or curd in it? A. Not that I noticed.

Q. Did you see this straining done? A. I did, sir.

Q. Did anybody put their hand in and move it around before it was strained? A. They did not.

Q. You think now she is a healthy cow?

(Objected to.)

A. You are referring now to my visit there a week ago yesterday?

Q. I ask you now if you think she was a week ago a healthy cow? A. The last questions you asked me were referring to my visit of a week ago Monday, I believe; you asked me the question in reference to straining which I wish to know refers to my visit of a week ago last Monday; she appeared to be a perfectly healthy

COW.

Q. You think now she was a week ago a perfectly healthy cow? A. I do as far as I could judge.

Q. Was she among the milkers or the strippers in that herd of Mr. Mulford's? A. I do not know if I could say what is termed a stripper or a milker.

Q. You do know at that time, that morning she gave a little over a pint, do you know that her whole milk that morning was that which you took in your sample bottle containing a little more than a pint? A. That was all that I saw milked.

Q. Do you know how many times a day she is milked? A. I believe twice; morning and evening.

Q. Has not Mr. Mulford told you or said in your presence that she was only milked once? A. He stated that some of his

COWS

Q. I am talking about the black cow now? A. He has not to my knowledge stated that she was milked once; I do not remember his specifying any particular one.

Q. Did he not say that the strippers were only milked once? A. Not to my recollection.

Q. Will you say how much milk the Mooley cow gave that morning? A. That I do not remember now.

Q. Did she give a pint? A. I do not remember how much she gave; I have got it marked down in my notes.

Q. Did you take the whole of her milk in your sample bottle? A. I do not remember; I have it in my notes; my brother, I believe, has got the notes.

Q. Do you know how much Fanny gave? A. I do not think the name of that cow was mentioned when I last testified.

Q. Do you know how much Star gave that morning? A. That is in my notes also; I do not remember exactly.

Q. Do you know whether you took all her milk in your sample bottle or not? A. If you will allow me to refer to my book, I will tell you; I do not remember.

Q. Will you swear that the milk of Star or the Mooley cow was either of it that morning more than a pint and a half? A. I told you I do not recollect without my notes.

Q. You do not know? A. I do not remember; my brother has my notes; if you will allow me to refer to these, I could tell you.

Q. Have you within the last week represented yourself to Mr. Mulford or have you sent a message through Mulford to any one that you were from the Board of Health and desired to see some gentleman in his house? A. I have not.

Mr. LAWRENCE—I move that that question and answer be stricken out as irrelevant to this case.

Q. Have you in the presence of Mr. Mulford, and of Dr. Waller, and Dr. O'Connor, and Mr. Root or any of them heard Mulford say that in counting the yield of his cows he did not count the strippers and distinguish between the strippers and the milking cows? A. I do not remember of having heard him make any such statement. Q. Was any such remark made by any one there present to Mulford in your presence at any time, that he did not count the milk of the strippers?

(Objected to on the ground that the defendant has nothing to do with outside statements; objection sustained.)

Q. Do you know how many regular milkers there are in Mr. Mulford's herd at this time? 4. I do not know what you mean by regular milkers; I saw twelve cows milked there.

Q. Have you the names of them? A. I do not recollect them; I think I have got all the names in my note book; Dr. Waller has got them all, I believe; I think I saw Dr. Waller write them all down in his book.

Q. Will you swear that there are more than four regular milkers in that herd of Mr. Mulford's? A. I think I answered that question before; I stated I saw twelve cows milked; will you be kind enough to explain what you mean by regular milkers?

Q. No, sir; I leave it for you; you know as well as I do; if you cannot answer it say so; if you do not know the difference, my impression is you said you did a little while ago? ? A. I saw twelve cows milked; I only saw them milked once, so that if I understood the fine distinctions which you wish to make

Q. Will you swear that there are more than four regular milkers in that herd of Mr. Mulford's? A. I do not understand in what way you want me to answer that.

Q. I would like to have you to tell the truth. A. That is what I have been endeavoring to do.

By the COURT-Q. You cannot say whether there were or not?
A. I cannot say; there were twelve cows milked.

By Mr. PRENTICE-Q. Did you ever see the whole of the milk of Mulford's herd in any one vessel taken together? A. I have seen cans full of milk; I did not know them to be the whole milk or whether they were a part of the milk of several days' milk.

A.

Q. Do you know how many times he sends milk to market? I do not know whether it is once or twice a day; I do not remember.

Q. Do you not know that the whole of the milk of Mr. Mulford's herd is less than thirty-seven quarts a day? A. I do not; I do not know how much it is; I never asked him the question.

Q. Did you see the cow Gipsy? A. Yes, sir.

Q. Do you know whether she is a regular milker, or not? A. I do not remember.

Q. Do you know whether the cow Charlie is a regular milker, or not? A. I have not got my notes with me; I did not expect to be called on the stand here or I should have had them with me.

Q. Do you know whether the cow Red Heifer is a regular milker, or not? A. I do not remember any such name; I remember a cow by the name of Red.

Q. Do you know whether she is a regular milker or not? A. I do not.

Q. Do you know whether the cow they call the "blue cow" is a regular milker, or not? A. I do not remember.

Q. Can you tell me what proportion of the milk of either of these cows, Gipsy, Charlie, Red, or Blue, bears to the milk of Star, Mooley, or the black cow, which gives the most? 4. I cannot make an answer from memory; I have got it all down in my notes; I would not like to make an answer from memory because I might be mistaken.

Q. Do you know whether or not, Mr. Mulford is to milk the cows Star, Mooley and black cow, any longer?

(Objected to; objection sustained.)

ROBERT OGDEN DOREMUS, Sworn and examined by Mr. LAWRENCE, testified as follows:

Q. What is your profession, Dr. Doremus? A. I am a chemist by profession.

Q. What experience have you had as an expert in criminal cases? A. In this very building, some eighteen years ago, we had an important trial involving reputation and life. Two whole bodies were analyzed, the first and only time this was done. The earth around the grave was analyzed, the coffin was analyzed; the lining of the coffin and the nails of the coffin; the Croton water was analyzed; the glass and procelain vessels employed were analyzed and for the first time with my able assistant, Dr. B. L. Budd, and especial care was taken that the private laboratory with every vessel new and with all the chemicals of them made pureand pure Is it necessary to go into this?

Mr. PRENTICE

many

The COURT-I suppose not; we all know how eminent a chemist Dr. Doremus is. We do not want a history of this case.

Q. Doctor, have you made the subject of milk a specialty? A. I have, sir.

Q. Have you lectured a great many times on milk? A. I have lectured upon the subject since the year 1850, in medical colleges, and am lecturing now each year upon this thing, devoting from two to three lectures each season upon it. In 1854, I think, I made an examination of what was called solidified milk. I accompanied a number of gentlemen from the Academy of Medicine to a locality