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earthly consideration could have induced permit it as soon as the necessity for their him, as a member of that House, acting presence ceased to exist; not with an unupon constitutional principles, to have wise and unprecedented zeal, but in the lent his sanction to such a measure, had it spirit that had thus grown up with the possessed the character which he and the Constitution itself, it would have behoved country had erroneously attributed to it. every man in that House to look at the To all that had been said of the services of Order in question, had its purport been the brave German troops he most heartily such, as until that night it had universally subscribed ; and if any question had arisen been supposed to be. Although he was with respect to their merits, the House not in the habit of paying the Noble Lord must feel that the gallant and generous tes
who made the motion many compliments, timony just borne to those merits by a he could by no means indulge in any sneer kindred spirit, would have been conclusive against him, for having brought under the on the subject. (Hear!) But it was no consideration of Parliament a document so disparagement to the gallant General who enigmatical, as even to deceive the compahad spoken so much to their credit and his nion in arms of those to whom it related. own, to say, that while that Hon. Officer on the contrary, he thought the Noble looked at the question with a military eye, Lord was in the present instance entitled to it became the House to consider it with a the gratitude of the House and the country, view to its bearing on the Constitution. for having produced the explanation which While he cordially concurred in all that had been afforded by the Noble Secretary had been said, and in all that could be at War, and for having put him (Mr. added in praise of the German troops, he Canning) in a situation which permitted could noi let his feelings, or the consider him, instead of supporting the Noble ation of the existing crisis, so far over- Lord's motion, to pay biun a compliment, power his duty to his country as to forget and vote against it. (as he thought the Noble Secretary at War Lord Folkeslore made a short reply to seemed at one time to forget) that it was the various arguments that had been adnecessity alone that justified their employ- duced against his motion. He expressed ment. Although no man, rationally cou- his astonishment that any Honourable Memsidering the circumstances of the times, ber should come down and eulogise the could object to their employment, yet it German troops, holding them up as supeought always to be remembered, that to rior to British troops. employ them was the exception and not General Stewart spoke to order, denying the rule. Looking, therefore, at the Or that he had characterized the German as der as it had been generally understood - superior to the British troops. On the conas it had been understood by the public as trary, he had avowed his partiality of the well as by himself--an understanding, he British troops, and particularly British must observe, inainly supported by the cavalry; instancing, at the same time, a comments with which it was accompanied regiment of German cavalry, which had at the time the Order was issued in pub- nobly distinguished itself. lications, which, though certainly not au- Lord Folkestone continued. He underthorized, were widely circulated-an un-stood him distinctly to have spoken of other derstanding, of which the report of that military departments also, in which he had night's debate would convey to the country given the preference to the Germans. He the first contradiction-he must say, that would contend, in opposition to what bad it would have involved a principle from fallen from the Secretary at War, that Baron which it would have been imperative on Linsingen had actually for some period com. him utterly to dissent. In the best and manded the Eastern District, and ordered earliest times of our renovated Constitution out the militia regiments at Ipswich. This -in the reign of that hero to whom we was contrary to the express words of the were indebted for that Constitution—in the Act of Parliament, which, in sanctioning case of the very troops which had been the employment of those Foreign Officers, called in to secure the establishment of that expressly stated that they were only to be Constitution—in the case of the Dutch allowed commands in their own particular troops in the service of King William, al- corps, “ inasmuch as they could best drill though that great sovereign and benefactor them, from being acquainted with their lanof the country descended almost to suppli- guage and manners."
He should also state, cate the House of Commons to allow him that in the teeth of an Act of Parliament, to retain his own guards, they would not part of the 60th regiment, raised auly for
service in America, was sent to the Penin- / the proper, and' in fact, the only way to sula. No man would object to such em- make the reference was, to establish a fair ployment of them, if Ministers, instead of estimate by the comparison of numbers, as breaking an Act of Parliament, would come equal as possible, between certain proporto Parliainent and point out the necessity tions or corps of the British army and the of such a change of destination. Upon oc- German Legion. casions of this nature, there was something Lord Folkestone maintained that he had else to be consulted besides the map of Eu- founded his estimate upon that very comrope. He thought it as necessary to con- parison which he was charged with not sult the Constitution and the Act of Settle having made. ment. Not only at the Revolution did our Mr. Whilbread paid a compliment to the ancestors refuse to allow Dutch troops to generous and liberal sentiments expressed stay in this country, but on the accession of by a gallant General (Stewart) on the emithe House of Hanover, there was an Act, nent services and distinguished bravery of the very last year, which had directly in its the German troops employed in Spain. contemplation the employment of Hanoverian The mutual euthusiasm and unlimited con, troops. It was against this very description fidence excited in the Officers of the army, of foe, that our ancestors shewed a consti- by the exploits of others serving with them, wtional jealousy at the time of passing the ought however to increase, instead of lessen, Act of Settlement. The Noble Lord then ing the jealousy with which we ought to made a statement of the losses of the German guard against the incorporation of foreign corps in the different great actions in the troops with our own. This was not a mili, Peninsula, which he thought would give a tary question, nor one in which we were to fair criterion to judge whether they signa- appeal to the sentiments of the army. It lized themselves more than British troops. was a constitutional question, on which the At the battle of Talavera, the German bat. Members of that House were to decide, as talions had.' certainly suffered more loss, the guardians of the rights and civil liberties upon an average, than the British, but in of the country. What he had risen for, every other action the balance was the other was to direct the attention of the House to way. At Barrosa, Ciudad Rodrigo, and a circumstance which had not been noticed, Badajos, no Germans were engaged; and the affectation which so generally and ridiat Busaco their loss was very trilling in- culously prevailed, of imitating the dress deed. He then stated the amount of the of foreign soldiers. From the known preGerman loss in the different actions, and dilection for this dress in a certain quarter, compared it with the loss of some British our troops were so Germanised or Frenchbattalions, which was much more severe. ified in their appearance, that the most seriThis mode of comparison, he allowed, might ous consequences were to be apprehended. be considered unfair, if a positive superiority In fact, English soldiers had fallen, and had not been claimed on the part of the English Officers been taken prisoners in Germans. - Lord Folkestone concluded with consequence of mistaking a corps of French observing, that if the Noble Lord's expla- troops for our own, and in the retreat from mation proved satisfactory to the public, he Salamanca, one of our Officers was near beshould be content in the reflection, that no ing killed by order of a brother Officer, inconsiderable portion of the object he had who supposed him to be French. Notin view was accomplished.
withstanding the general sense entertained Lord Palmerston, in explanation, con- on this subject by the army, either retended, that he had not expressed any con- monstrances had not reached the source tempt of the Act of Settlement. The com- from which the remedy must spring, or had mand was temporary, and was founded on been ineffectual, so far had taste prevailed the Article of War, applicable to the Ger- over judgment. Whatever might be our man Legion, by which these Officers took admiration of foreign troops employed with precedence. He also saw nothing incon- our own, there was surely no need to consistent or unconstitutional in the assumption found the two services together, each might of the command of a district by General retain a distinct, uniform, and independent Linsingen, as it must have devolved upon character of its own. He could not abstain him in the absence of Lord Chatham, and from expressing his concern at the coucluwas perfectly agreeable to the Article of sion of the speech of an Hon. Gentleman War to which he had alluded. The Noble (Mr. Canning,) who after the strongest and Lord appeared to have totally mistakeu the most pointed arguments in favour of the nature of the reference to the Gazettes ; for propriety of the motion, expressed in laxaffect the interest of British Officers. Per-| lished in the course of the summer.' There manent rank had the advantage over the was no action in which part of this gallant temporary in the general army promotion corps was not foremost in every danger. It The Act for the German Legion anthorized did not appear to him that the Noble Lord the making of the articles of war, one of had laid before the House sufficient grounds which directed that when serving with for the production of papers ; but, he other corps, the senior Officer of either thought it would not be sufficient for the was to command, as was usual in the House barely to reject the motion on this army in general. The Officers of the Le- ground. He thought the House should gion, in regard of rank, had always been not allow itself to be supposed to concur put in brevet as permanent.' So far from in the idea of its being illegal and unconthis order enabling them to shoulder Bri- stitutional to employ foreign troops, and tish Officers from their promotion, it gave that it would be well that the new Parliathem in practice 'no advantage whatever, ment should have its opinion some way either in rank or precedence which they understood of the legality and propriety of had not before enjoyed. It might then continuing the present system of employing naturally be asked, why an order was is every means of carrying on offensive warsued which in its effect appeared a nullity? | fare which presented itself in the present It was because the Commander in Chief circumstances. thought it was but paying a well-deserved -Mr. Ponsonby objected particularly to compliment to a ineritorious body of men, the last part of the Noble Lord's speech.' who had signalized themselves not only in He hoped that the House would not on the one action, but throughout the whole cam- present, or any other occasion, express an paign. It was a compliment which he opinion on a subject not connected with the was convinced would be gratifying to the motion that was before them. The Noble feelings of many of the officers of that Lord (Lord Folkestone) had not said a corps, that they should retain, after peace, single word about this general question of the military rank and titles which they employing foreigners, nor about the merits might acquire by their honourable services of this particular corps ; and, therefore, if in the course of the war. He knew that the House were to give an opinion upon many had au objection to employing foreign those questions, it would be upon subjects soldiers on constitutional principles. He not before them. He was extremely glad thought, however, that those who consi- that the Noble Lord (Lord Palmerston) dered the circumstances of the times, as had given the explanation he had done; well as the Constitution of the country and the matter having been so explained, would not object to their being employed he now saw nothing illegal or unconstituat present. If any man would look at the tional in it. It seemed that the order was map of Europe, and see what a portion of only intended as a compliment to the Gerits population the enemy had forced into man Legion ; but the Noble Lord (Folkehostility against this country,—if he were stone) had certainly understood the order also to consider the limited population of in the same way that he, and, as he bethese two islands, and the extensive colonies lieved, the public also had understood it. we have to defend, and the navy we have It appeared now, that in the language of to support, it appeared to him hardly pos- the War Office, the word permanent sible that such a man would now adhere to meant temporary. If the Noble Lord the idea of not employing foreigners in our (Lord P.) however, had been assured, service. Surely it would not be said, that on account of his services, the place that the individuals now alluded to were he held should be a permanent one, he objects of censure or distrust. ' He would supposed that he would think it hard, if, beg the House to consider, who were they? | at the end of the year, or at the conclusion They were not adventurers intruding them of the war, he should be removed, and selves into the service of the country, but told that permanent
and temporary they were Germans—the natural subjects meant the same things. If the officers to of our own Sovereign, who preferred an whom this order applied, were really honourable exile to an ignominious servi- highly gratified and pleased with it under tude; and who'were bound by allegiance the explanation now given, he must say, to the same Sovereign who rules in this that they must be as disinterested a set of country. As to the value of their ser- soldiers as ever lived. He was certainly. vices, it would be seen from the perusál of aware that the word permanent could not the different Gazettes which were pub- be strictly applied to any portion of our
army, which existed from year to year by trusted with commands against the enemy, the annual Mutiny. Act; and if there was they should not be equally trusted in this no intention of giving those foreign officers country? Lord Wellington had intrusted command in our army longer than the pe- the command of the light division, which riod under which they had been engaged was one of the finest in the whole army, to by the sanction of Parliament, he saw no Baron Alten. Notwithstanding the par. objection to the measure. He had heard tiality he naturally felt for English troops, that there were many persons who enter- yet the Germans had so eminently distintained an aversion to foreign troops, and a guished themselves in the Peninsula, that hostile feeling to those Germans ; he wish- he was sure, if it was put to the whole ed particularly to state that he had no such army to say, whether they ought not to feelings. (Hear, hear.) He had heard have permanent rank, there would not be from many officers of high rank, that some a dissentient voice. When he first read corps had very highly distinguished them- the Order, he certainly did understand it selves against the enemy, and he felt nei- in the sense which the Noble Lord (Lord ther aversion nor distrust towards them. Folkestone) did, (loud cries of hear, hear), Nevertheless he adhered to the opinion, and in that he would approve of it
. He. that Parliament ought generally to look had witnessed the merits of the German with a constitutional jealousy to the em troops in the Peninsula. The 1st regiment ployment of foreign soldiers, especially of Hussars was the admiration of the whole within this realm.
army; and in the department of QuarterSir H. Mildmay said, that he should Master-General, he knew some German: vote for the motion. He had no objection Officers, who, he thought, ought to be to this corps as Germans, but he objected preferred to British Officers. Besides merely to the manner in which they were great clearness and diligence, many of them employed.
possessed advantages acquired before the Lord Milton believed, that in point of war in the Peninsula. fact, German officers had in this country Lord Milton begged to be allowed to commanded districts, and British regi- say in explanation, and in answer to the ments; and he particularly alluded to Ban Gallant General who could not apprehend ron Linsingen, Now he thought this was why, if it were allowable to intrust comnot a proper employment for Foreign Of- mands to German Officers abroad, it should ficers. He had no objection to their being not be considered allowable to intrust to employed in commands abroad, but he did them commands at home, that the very not like to see them in command in this reason was, that in the one case the comcountry, except in their particular corps. mand was in Portugal, and in the other in In this distinction he conceived himself England. founded on the true principles of the con- Mr. Canning confessed that his mind stitution.
was inexpressibly relieved by the explanaLord Palmerston said, in explanation, tion which the Noble Secretary at War that with the Officers of the German Le- had given of an order, which, until that gion from its first foundation, their tempo- hour he certainly understood, in common rary rank gave them corresponding com- with the Right Honourable Gentleman opmand. In the case of Baron Linsingen, posite, in common with the Public, and, the command of the district would have as it now appeared, in common even with naturally devolved upon him, on the re- one of the gallant leaders of that army with moval of Lord Chatham ; but the fact, as which the German Legion was immediately he believed, was, that the Baron never connected, to import no less than the comhad commanded a district, as an older munication of permanent rank to the OfEnglish Officer was immediately appointed ficers of that Legion, in the sense in which to it: he had only commanded at the that term was usually interpreted in the depot.
British army. His mind was inexpressibly Lord Millon repeated his persuasion, relieved by that explanation, because it that the Baron had for some time actually proved, that in fact, the Law and the commanded the Eastern district.
Constitution had not been violated. It General Stewart could not, as a military gave him great satisfaction to learn, that man who had seen the services of those the order in question was not so ineffective corps, remain silent upon the present oc- as the Noble Lord had described it to be, casion. He would ask the Noble Lord for whatever might be his sense of the (Lord Milton) why; when they were in merit of the troops to which it referred, no
guage which only that Gentleman could precipitated themselves before the Russians, command, had declared his intention of and fought that 'fury with remarkable voting against it. This conduct of the Hon. bravery, order, and sang froid. We, at Gentleman was, however, nothing new : he least, brought the Russians, who made had been a good deal in the habits of speak- this attack under the walls of the town, ing on one side of the question, and giving where the carnage we caused them, 'from his vote on the other ;; nor could he, ever the morning, upon all points of their whole after to night, think himself entitled to cal army, only terminated with night. The culate upon his support in a division, from Russians, notwithstanding their superior the arguments he might: use in the course rity, left the ground heaped with corpses, of the debate.
and did not succeed in any of their attacks. Lord Palmerston; in answer to an inquiry -Notwithstanding the success obtained from Lord Folkestone, on what authority he on this day, I was uneasy in the evening had stated that the Officers of the German respecting the success my cavalry might Legion understood the order relating to their have met with upon the left bank of the receiving permanent rank only in a qualified Dwina. On this day, I had deprived sense, said it was from a letter from General myself of the greater part of my cavalry, Dekin, who had expressed himself distinctly to be easy respecting my rear. In the to that effect.
evening, General Carbineau, whose bri, Lord Folkestone, wishing to know the gade of horse, extremely fatigued, had date of that letter, Lord Palmerston replied, not penetrated beyond the Orschatz, and that it was subsequent to the notice of his had met, according to his account, with Lordship's motion.
some cavalry and a few infantry; as he The motion was then negatived without was perfectly satisfied in this respect, a division.
having, at his disposition three battalions
of Bavarian infantry, I waited the follow OFFICIAL PAPERS.
ing day with much tranquillity.-On
the 19th, at break of day, we saw the Report of Monsieur the Marshal Gouvion cnemy in movement upon the line, occu
St. Cyr to His Highness the Prince Ma- pied in rectifying their position, and formjor-General
ing a half circle round ours. About ten in Continued from page 766.) the morning, an Aid-de-Camp of General lumns before the front of the 6th division, Carbineau arrived, and informed me he commanded by M. General Legrand. He had before his brigade 5,000 men, and 12 principally directed his attack against a squadrons of cavalry. I lost not a moment battery which was not completed, on the in taking a regiment out of each of the left bank of the Polota, and which thus three divisions of the ad corps, taking in became the centre of the division of Le preference those which might be most grand. Three or four times he endeavour- easily withdrawn from before the enemy, ed to obtain possession of it, and was al- who would not then have failed to renew ways repulsed with that loss which is ever bis attacks, and only waited to do it, thę experienced when such enterprises cannot appearance of this corps, the arrival of succeed. Up to the afternoon the enemy which he impatiently expected. Towards had not dared to attack the front of the noon, these troops defiled upon the heights right bank of the Polota, some points of behind Polotsk. The enemy clearly perwhich were tolerably well intrenched and ceived the object of this movement; but finished; but about four o'clock they de- thought it was a kind of reserve behind bouched from the road of Seibit and Riga, Polotsk. I assembled these troops, under and furiously and in a crowd marched upon the command of General Amey. I joined the left- Aank of the town, supported by to them the 7th regiment of cuirasseurs, the column which debouched frem the of Denmir's division, who had not hitherto Nayal road.--I wished to have allowed met the enemy in proceeding up the Dwiall that fine ardour to be spent upon two na. At the same time I ordered, ihai as redoubts, constructed and occupied by the soon as it was dusk, the whole of the army Bavarian artillery and troops, and neces- should cross to the left of the Dwina. Ta sary to their defence, commanded by Ge- wards the fall of day, at the moment in ntral Vicente ; but the success of the 2d which we began to withdraw the artillery division, commanded by General Merle, from the advanced works, some imprudent as well as the 3d regiment of Croates, in persons set fire to General Legrand's baropposition to their settled dispositions, racks, which, in a moment, communicated