A large number of operating-company receiverships would inevitably follow the passage of this bill.

As already indicated cash advances are constantly being made to operating companies in our group to take care of cash requirements which they are otherwise unable to meet.

Being placed in the position of liquidating trustees, no responsible board of directors of a holding company could do anything other than fully conserve its cash items. Receivership of operating companies now receiving our assistance would certainly follow and what is true in our group is, I believe, true in praetically all other large groups.

Dissolution of the holding companies would place in other hands demand advances previously made by the holding companies to the operating companies and in many cases this, too, would mean receivership.

In addition to these receivership possibilities, there is the question of large operating-company bond issues maturing during the 5-year dissolution period.

THE PROPOSED LEGISLATION IS DISCRIMINATORY The bill now before you is as difficult to understand for what it excludes as for what it includes.

Not all holding companies are affected but only public utility holding companies

Not all public utility holding companies are to be legislated against but only those engaged in the elctric or gas business, or both.

Not even all electric and gas holding companies are prohibited but only those whose operations extend into two or more States.

All this seems to be in the highest degree discriminatory.

The Congress must not be surprised if this evidence of discrimination leaves in the minds of those investors whose holdings this legislation singles out for destruction a feeling that they have been unjustly treated by those who should have protected them.

If wrong has been done there must be some better way of exacting punishment than that of sacrificing the innocent.

Surely regulation can prevent a recurrence of any such wrongdoing in the future.

THE PROPER FUNCTION OF THE PUBLIC-UTILITY HOLDING COMPANY In my opinion the public-utility holding company is important only as it is a necessary and effective link in the chain by which efficient and economical service is made available to the public.

It is for this reason that I, as an operating man, although now an officer in an important public utility holding company, have approached this problem entirely from the viewpoint of the industry as a coordinated organization engaged in s business affected throughout with a public interest, hence properly subject to fair and just regulation, but equally entitled to protection from superficial generalizations arrived at without adequate factual preparation and reflecting neither the business responsibility which is mine nor the legislative responsibility which is yours.

Others have more fully presented to you the utter impracticability, except at tremendous and unnecessary losses to present investors, of the methods proposed by the proponents of this measure to bring about the elimination of holding companies. I have limited myself principally to a discussion as to why, on the basis of the alleged purposes of the bill, such elimination is unnecessary and hence unwise in the public interest.


ON OPERATION AND REGULATION OF UTILITIES (A presentation on behalf of Electric Bond & Share Co. to the Committee on Interstate Commerce of the Senate in public hearings on S. 1725.)

PURPOSE OF THIS PAPER The purpose of this paper is to summarize statements of local counsel * for various operating companies associated with Electric Bond & Share Co. and to supplement the same by statements of counsel for the company to the extent necessary in order to afford a composite presentation of views of counsel with respect to S. 1725.

Decisions and statutes cited and identified by small reference numerals throughout the following text will be found in the appendix.

PRESENT COMPREHENSIVE REGULATION OF OPERATING UTILITIES Operating utilities throughout the country are subjected to regulation by States and municipalities in varying degrees covering substantially all of their operations and activities including rates, service, security issues, extensions into new territories, discrimination, accounts, reports, mergers, sales, leases, purchases, or consolidations of properties, contracts, franchises, holding and affiliated company relationships, service and management contracts, merchandising, rebates, and other matters.

Regulatory powers of the States extend to practically every aspect of utility affairs. Actual regulation varies according to the extent to which the States and municipalities have deemed it necessary or advisable to regulate the operating companies and their relations with holding companies. This regulation may be extended whenever local authorities, with their familiarity with local matters, determine that the need exists.

The States and municipalities should be jealous of local control of their utilities for the reason that the exercise of the powers of regulation by the local authorities has been most effective. Their intimate contact with the local companies enables them to act quickly, avoiding the unwieldy procedure which is necessarily incident to regulation from distant points. The companies respond promptly to local authority, being constantly aware of the dangers arising out of bad public relations which may result in denial of new franchises, burdensome taxation, and erection of competing plants. Accordingly, there is rapid response to complaints of any character and the people are satisfied since the situation best serves their interests. Under the present comprehensive regulation by States and municipalities the power of management has not been usurped but has been allowed to remain with the companies' officials.

CONFLICT WITH LOCAL REGULATION An examination of the bill discloses that it would provide regulation of operating utilities to an extent never heretofore undertaken by any branch of this Government-National, State, or municipal-and that local regulation will be duplicated or superseded. The consumers of a company would be prevented, to a large extent, from regulating the business of the company through their authorized representatives in the State and local governments. Confusion in the industry must result from such duplication.

FEDERAL COMMISSION WILL SUPERSEDE LOCAL AUTHORITIES If the bill is enacted, the right of the State and municipal governments to regulate the local operating utilities will be superseded to the extent that the Federal Government has authority to regulate with respect to the same matters. It is clear, under the decisions of the United States Supreme Court, that once the bill becomes law, the power of the States to regulate the same matters is gone regardless of whether the Federal Power Commission exercises the authority

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conferred upon it or not. Once Congress manifests a purpose to enter a field of regulation, its occupation is exclusive, and local regulatory powers disappear. State or local action could not be sustained on the ground that it is merely complementary to and in aid of the Federal legislation.? The Interstate Commerce Act has been held many times to have completely superseded the authority of the States with regard to such matters. Jurisdiction over extensions, abandonments, securities, and other important matters, would be vested in the Federal Power Commission and could no longer be exercised by the State commissions. When viewed in the light of the decisions of the courts, the suggestion that the Federal Power Commission will only use the powers conferred upon it to supplement the powers of the various State commissions, takes on an entirely different meaning.

Where the Federal power exists, it dominates to the exclusion of State and local powers and the bill will come as an abrupt shock to the citizens of the various communities who have long guarded their home-rule rights. Thus, a bureau of individuals, unfamiliar with local situations and far removed from the people who are most affected, will supersede the local utility controlling body or bodies familiar with the history of the company, its organization and needs. The possibility of prompt relief and action will disappear, and the long delay and disadvantage that must result from remote control of local matters cannot be avoided.

It appears that little is left to management, and that therefore the authority to control the future development of any particular local territory, insofar as it depended upon its power resources, would be transferred to Washington. The States have protested vigorously against the surrender of their powers to the Federal Government. The powers of local self-government are fundamental with the various localities and are too firmly imbedded to be lightly set aised or relinquished. In many respects the State commissions would have no function other than to furnish a rubber stamp for the Federal Power Commission and, should disagreement occur, the operating utilities would be in a condition of serious uncertainty until the disagreement was dispelled. If the bill becomes law, the practical necessity for the existence of public-service.commissions and other similar regulatory bodies will, to a great extent, disappear, and it could only be anticipated that local regulation would fall before the more highly organized and powerful regulation which would emanate from Washington.

The experience of the railroads will furnish an example of what may be expected. In that field Federal regulation has almost completely superseded State regulation. The electric utilities are entirely different from railroads and the question of whether or not Nation-wide railroad regulation is desirable has no bearing upon the electric industry.

Directly in point on this general question is the decision of the United States Supreme Court in 1913 in Northern Pacific Railway Co. v. State of Washington (222 U. S. 370). In 1907 Congress passed an Hours of Service Act for interstate carriers, but provided that it should not become effective until 1 year later. Shortly after the passage of the Federal act, the State of Washington passed a similar act and a penalty was assessed under the

state act against the Northern Pacific before the effective date of the Federal sct. The State court upheld the penalty on the ground that while Congress had passed an Hours of Service Act, it was not in fact enforcing it at the time the State attempted to enforce its act and, therefore, there was no conflict between the exercise of the State and Federal powers. In overruling this contention and holding that the penalty could not stand, Mr. Chief Justice White said (p. 378):

It is elementary that the right of a state to apply its police powers for the purpose of regu lating interstate commerce, in a case like this, exists only from the silence of Congress on the subject, and coases when Congress acts on the subject or manifests its purpose to call into play its exclusive poker. This being the conceded premise on which alone the State law could have been made applicable, it resulta that as the enactment by Congress of the law in question was an assertion of its power, by the fact alone of such manifestation that subject was at once removed from the sphere of the operation of the authority of the State." (Emphasis ours.).

This clear holding by the Supreme Court has been consistently adhered to be it and this case has been often since cited with approval.

The Federal statute involved in the Northern Pacific case again came before the court in the case of Erie Railroad Co. v. New York (1914) (223 U. S. 671), where the railroad bad been convicted of violation of the New York hours of service law. The argument was made that the State legislation was supplementary to the Federal legislation and was therefore not in conflict with it, the theory being that so long as the State law did not provide for longer hours of service than did the Federal law, no conflict could exist. The State court decision was reversed and, in the course of the opinion, Mr. Justice McKenna said

(p. 681): "Where there is conflict the State legislation must give way. Indeed, when Congress acts in such a way to manifest its purpose to exercise its constitutional authority the regulating power of the state ceases to exist." and in specific answer to the argument above mentioned, he stated (p. 683):

We realize the strength of these observations, but they put out of view, we think, the ground of decision of the cases, and, indeed, the necessary condition of the supremacy of the congressional power. It is not that there may be division of the field of regulation, but an exclusive occupation of it when Congress manifests a purpose to enter it."

· Southern Railway Co. v. Reid (1912) (222 U.S. 424, 441). Gilpary v. Cuyahoga Valley Railway Co. (1931) (292 U. S. 57).

3 Railroad Commission of the State of California v. Southern Pacific Co. et al. (1924) (264 U. 3. 331), and cases there cited.

Houston, East & West Teras R. Co. v. U. S. (1914) (234 U. S. 342, 350).

Legislation of this character would foster the destruction or at least restriction of the jurisdiction of the States with respect to property over which they now have jurisdiction and would encourage further centralization of power in commissions far removed from the localities affected. The local authorities may decline to retire from the field of regulation, thereby adding to the confusion.


No attempt has been made to discuss the many constitutional questions that might be raised in connection with the bill, but it is thought that this bill attempts to extend Federal jurisdiction far beyond the limits established by the Constitution, and existing decisions of the Supreme Court, as well as recent decisions of the lower courts, tend to confirm this view.

COMMON CARRIER FEATURES MAY AMOUNT TO CONFISCATION Sections 202 (a) and 203 (b)* authorize the Federal Power Commission to compel a utility to furnish energy to, purchase energy from, and permit the use of its plant and property by, others, including competing utility systems and Government projects. Apparently the utility furnishing energy would not have the right reserved to it to devote its property to its own consumers first. This appears to be a short-cut to taking the property of a utility without condemnation and not for public use in the sense that the term “public use" is applied in condemnation proceedings) and without just compensation.


Under the bill, the Commission would have power to regulate and control the development of a utility by requiring additions, extensions, interconnections, use of facilities by others and the sale or purchase of current (sec. 203 (b)). Having, in mind that the “others" may be governmental agencies, it is obvious that the expenditure of the utility's money for the benefit of competitive Government projects may be required. Coupled with general authority to dominate the industry, this regulatory power might well be exercised in the development of any Government nationalization plan. There is the additional possibility that one company might be obliged to make investments primarily for the benefit of another.

The provisions of the bill which contemplate regional districts for the control of the production and transmission of electric energy, interconnection of facilities and determination of the uses to be made of the facilities in districts, are far reaching and threaten the rights and interests of the utilities (secs. 203 (a) (b)). These provisions disclose the underlying potential dangers of the bill, namely, governmental management as the first step, and, as the next, ownership and operation of the entire electric utility business of the country as a governmental agency.

In view of the Commission's authority to force reorganization of existing companies, and the avowed purpose of the bill to accomplish readjustment on territorial lines (secs. 11 (b), 2 (c), and 30), portions of an existing system could be taken from one company and made a part of another system, even before the Government assumes complete ownership.

When this bill, depriving the local authorities of regulatory powers, is considered in connection with the Public Works Administration bills, conferring upon municipalities power to purchase, construct, and operate municipally owned public utilities, it is obvious that the powers afforded by the bill might be utilized to bring about nationalization of the existing public-utility industry and utter destruction of private interests therein. The exercise of the powers to be conferred by the bill upon the Federal Power Commission cannot in any sense be considered reasonably necessary for effective control of either holding or operating companies.

It is perhaps worthy of comment that the application of the bill, and possible nationalization of the industry, could result eventually in the complete elimination of the public-utility industry as a field of tax revenue. Over a long period, the Government of the United States has been striving to sustain and encourage industrial and business enterprise. While other industries have required Federal aid, the public utilities, by their own ingenuity and on account of the foresight of the men who organized them, generally speaking, have maintained, up to now, an undiminished standard of service for consumers, have complied with Federal regulations of all kinds and character, and have met the fixed retarn upon their capital investment. In the fact of that record and achievement, this bill would pave the way for the Government to seize the utilities' management, abolish their owners, nationalize the industry, and thus penalize by confiscation the one industry which has survived the depression.

*The references in this paper to section numbers of the bill are to section numbers intitle I of the bill (Public Utility Holding Company Act of 1935) and in title II of the Federal Power Act, as set forth in 8. 1725.

A consideration of the bill gives rise to many serious questions regarding the Government's future course. Could not the Federal Government by interconnecting the proposed hydro plants at various sites with other projects which are receiving its substantial support, and by regulation and control, subordinate all other neighboring power developments to that system, and thereby supplant with hydroelectric power, the power now produced by private companies with coal, gas, and other fuels to be found in the local territories? By so doing, would not the people in the local territories be supplying the market for governmental power at the expense of such local people? In keeping with the trend of the times and to avoid embarrassing conflicts, would it not be logical for the Federal Power Commission to undertake to adopt a system of geographic and economic planning in which it would attempt to allocate the industries of the country between sections and communities? Is there to be no such thing in the future as competition between localities as well as industries and corporations? Are we to have a system set up whereby an arbiter in Washington shall plan and direct the develop. ment of the country without reference to the natural advantages offered by any particular section, or without reference to the thrift, industry, and social aspirations of its people? Should the destiny of the local territories be placed in the hands of a new and untried agency?

SECURITY HOLDERS AFFECTED The reorganization of companies which must take place, dictated in the interests of any Government nationalization plan, would undoubtedly result in forced reorganizations, under conditions which cannot fail to be disastrous to security holders and detrimental to consumers. It will be impossible to dismember companies and regionalize the industry without serious loss to those who have made investments in reliance upon existing laws and methods of regulation. How the security holders who owned the dismembered system are to be compensated and protected is indeed a problem which will be difficult of solution. In the absence of some very good reason, holders of securities should not be forced to sustain the loss which will inevitably follow the regulation and activity pro. posed by this bill.

CONFLICTING METHODS OF ARRIVING AT VALUATIONS FOR RATE PURPOSES The local authorities, in the exercise of their regulatory powers with respect to rates, are governed by the rulings of the United States Supreme Court, which allow a return upon the fair value of used and useful property, taking into consider. ation all the usual elements which are too well known to merit discussion herein. The bill contemplates that the rates fixed by the Federal Power Commission shall produce a return upon “the actual legitimate prudent cost” of the property involved (sec. 211 (c)). This is contrary to the law as laid down by the Supreme Court of the United States. It is, of course, impossible to determine what interpretation may be given to the words "legitimate" and "prudent" and whether "hindsight" or "foresight” will be the test. The adoption of this new method of arriving at valuations for rate purposes cannot result in anything except confusion followed by extensive and prolonged litigation with accompanying financial stagnation and with the private development of the industry at's standstill in the interim.

The valuations of properties made by local authorities may conflict with valuations made by the Federal Power Commission. Rates fixed and approved by local authorities as reasonable may be found unreasonable by the Federal Power Commission and hopeless confusion will result. The bill provides that rate reductions may be made retroactive 2 years from date of complaint (sec. 213 (a)). Thus ruinous refunds might be ordered even though (1) the rates had been approved by the local authorities, (2) the funds collected by the utility had been used for legitimate purposes, and (3) no monies to meet the refunds were available.

In view of the clause to the effect that "Nothing in this title shall impair or diminish the powers of any State commission” (sec. 217), the local State commission, deeming that such clause is not a delusion, would be justified in regulating

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