A. No. Q. Will you swear, you never went to Liverpool after Dunn? A. At what time? Q. Will you swear you never went to Liverpool after Dunn? A. I have been there after him, within these eight days -with a subpana in my pocket to subpana him. Q. You was with him drinking upon the 8th and 9th of January? A. Yes. Q. Upon the 18th of March you was again with him at Welch's? A. Yes; I told you he called upon me, and I went off 'the bed with him. Q. Who was in company with you at Welch's? A. John Spink, and me, and one James Stott. Q. When you was with Dunn at this public house, do you remember Mr. Walker's clerk, Moses Eadon, coming? A. I do, but not upon the 18th. Q. Was that upon the 19th? A. Yes. Q. And the 20th too, I believe, you were drinking together? A. I never saw him before the close of the evening of the 20th, when he came to our house. Q. Was Moses Eadon, Mr. Walker's clerk, with you upon the 18th, or not till the 19th? A. Upon the 19th. Q. Upon Eadon's coming in, did not Eadon go into another room, and did not you tip Dunn upon the shoulder, and desire he would go with you into another room? A. I did. Q. How much liquor had you together at this public house upon the 19th? A. At this time we had had very little. Q. How much money was spent, before you parted? Q. Don't you know, that fourteen or fiftéen shillings was spent by Mr. Walker's clerk, at this meeting upon the 19th? Q. Mr. Walker's clerk never paid a penny to my know, ledge-I paid most of it. Q. You treated Dunn, did you? A. I paid the shot, and treated him. A. I cannot tell to a shilling or two. A. No. Q. Was it not fifteen shillings? A. It might be for what I know, I cannot tell. Q. Did not you tell Dunn, you wished he would get out of the way, till the assizes were over? A. Never, no such matter. Q. You swear, that at no time you ever told Dunn, you wished he would get out of the way, till the assizes were over? A. Never in my days-I wished otherwise. Q. Do you mean to swear upon your oath, that you not advise him to remain at Preston? did A. I did not; he said, he would go to Preston, for he said, he would not be subpana'd by any party; of all things, I said, you will stand forth at the trial; he said, I will, but I will not be subpoena'd by any party. 2. Upon the 19th of March he told you he would not be subpoena'd by any body? A. That was on the 20th, and he said the same on the 21st in the morning. Q. When did you lend him this other money? A. I lent him one part on Wednesday night, somewhere about the 19th, and he had the remaining part some on Thursday, and the remaining part on the Friday morning. Q. How much has he had in the whole from you? A. Thirteen shillings, from the first to the last. Q. And all this, after this meeting at Welch's, the Hare and Hounds? A. No, he had only nine shillings then. Q. Have you never received from any person whatever, either the money that you spent at the Hare and Hounds, or the money you lent Dunn? A. I have not upon my oath. Q. Nor no promise? A. Nor no promise of any thing. Dunn promised he would pay me my money back again. Q. You never had, from any other person living, a promise of re-payment of the money lent? A. No, never. Q. Have spent? you never received any money back that you A. No, never, from man, woman, nor child. Q. Mr. Erskine (to Mr. Duckworth). When you heard that it was reported, that this Dunn had run away, and was was not coming to the assizes, did you take consequence? any step in A. I had heard he was gone to Preston, and would stay there till the assizes. We were much afraid he would run off. I went to Preston to desire Mr. Cross, the prothonotary, would devise some means of keeping him in his custody by a bailiff, or in some other manner. Mr. Cross would not do that, but advised me to subpana Dunn; we sued out a subpoena, and endeavoured to serve him with it. Mr. Twiss was sent to Liverpool, to endeavour to subpoena him there. He could not be found. It had been reported that we had bribed Dunn to keep out of the way. Mr. Justice Heath. I cannot think there is much in the thirteen shillings, for if Dunn was so corrupt that thirteen shillings would influence his testimony, his credit is not worth much. Mr. Jones (sworn). Examined by Mr. Lloyd. Q. Was you at Mr. Walker's on the 18th of March? Q. Was Dunn, the man who stands behind you, there? Q. Did you hear him say, he had sworn true or false, against Mr. Walker? what did he say about Mr. Walker? 4, When he first came into the room, he seemed as if he was rather intoxicated. I thought he reeled across, from the door towards the window; he sat himself down, and in a little time a question was proposed, I think by myself; Whether he had not something to say to Mr. Walker? he said, he had wronged Mr. Walker. I asked him in what manner he had wronged Mr. Walker? he said, he had accused him falsely. Immediately as he said that, he fell down upon his knees, and begged his pardon. Mr. Walker desired him to get up. Several other questions were put to him, in what manner he had falsely sworn against Mr. Walker, he did not give any answer to them. Q. Was he brought into the room by force, or did he appear of his own free-will? A. I understood he came of his own free-will; he knocked at the door, and was introduced into the room; he said, HE HAD BEEN BRIBED TO DO WHAT HE HAD DONE. 2. Did he seem affected-was he in tears? A. He seemed very much agitated when he entered the I asked Dunn, who had bribed him, he would not room. give me an answer to that question, Mr. Mr. Jones. Cross-examined by Mr. Law. Q. Was Mr. Twiss, the constable, there? A. He was not there. The persons present in the room, when I was there, were Mr. Walker, Mr. Richard Walker, Mr. Ridgway the attorney, myself, and Dunn. Q. I only wanted to know whether Twiss was there; you need not mention who were there, for the purpose of confirming what you say. Did he seem to you, so far recollected at the time he talked with you, as to be aware of the import of what he was saying? A. Yes, I thought he was, perfectly. Q. Did he specify any particulars, in which he had accused Mr. Walker falsely? A. He did not; I asked him that question; he did not give an answer to it; he seemed very desirous of commu nicating what he had to say to Mr. Walker alone; he seemed very loth to say any thing to any questions put to him, while Mr. Ridgway and I were there; he frequently desired that Mr. Walker and he might confer together; Mr. Walker did not choose to trust himself with him alone. Q. You have no sort of doubt in your recollection, that Dunn used those words that he had accused Mr. Walker falsely ? A. He did. 2. Was there any conversation, respecting the indictment that was depending at Lancaster at that time? A. I did not hear any thing said about an indictment. There was a question put to Dunn, either by Mr. Walker or Mr. Ridgway, I believe, by Mr. Ridgway, whether he had ever heard Mr. Walker damn the King? he said, he never had, he had heard him speak disrespectfully of him. I asked him in what manner he had spoken disrespectfully of him? but to that question he gave no answer. 2. Was there any mention made at that time, of any assemblies held at the house of Mr. Walker, for the purpose of exercising with arms? A. Not a syllable. Q. Was any thing said of Mr. Yorke being at Mr. Walker's? be so good as tell me all that passed at that meeting? A. There was a question asked about Mr. Yorke; it was asked by Dunn himself-instead of directly answering Mr. Walker's questions, he seemed to evade them by putting the question whether Mr. Yorke had been in town or no? or whether he had seen him within a few days? Mr. Walker did not give him any answer to that question. Q. Nothing Q. Nothing was said then about Yorke's having been at the meeting at Mr. Walker's house? A. No. Q. How long might Dunn be with you in the whole? A. I fancy he was about twenty minutes, or half an hour in the room-the questions I have mentioned, were fre quently put to him, Q. Did you take any thing down in writing of what passed? A. I did that night when I got home. Q. Have you a minute of it? A. I have. Q. Be so good as to let me look at that minute; it is not from any doubt of your giving me the best of your recollection, I wish to see it for another purpose. (Mr. Jones gave Mr. Law his minutes.) You mention here, I see, that you went with Mr. Richard Walker, Dunn was soon introduced-by whom was he introduced? A. I think Mr. Richard Walker shewed him into the room, if I recollect right; somebody knocked at the door very soon after we got there; I understood it was Dunn; he came immediately into the room. Q. Who introduced him. A. I think Mr. Richard Walker opened the door when Dunn came into the room. I was doubtful towards the end of the business, whether he was drunk, or only feigned to be so; for towards the latter end of it he appeared more steady, and seemed perfectly collected in every thing he said; he was particularly urgent with Mr. Walker to be alone with him. Finding that could not be obtained, he wished to be with the two Walkers; that was refused; then he desired he might be with Mr. Richard Walker alone, which was also refused, and Mr. Walker peremptorily told him he would not suffer himself to be in his company alone. The man seemed very much vexed at it and he came out with a threat upon the occasion; he said Mr. Walker would repent of it, for it would be a damn'd deal worse for him, let him bring as many witnesses as he would. Mr. Erskine. Mr. Thomas Dunn, is this true or false? Q. This gentleman is perjured then-it is all false? Mr. Law. I know the character of several of the gentlemen who have been examined, particularly Mr. Jones; I cannot expect one witness alone, unconfirmed, to stand against the testimony of these witnesses; I ought not to expect it. Mr. |