THE DUCHESS OF NEWCASTLE-I am satisfied with the type, but I should like to see all a bit lower on the leg; also hindquarters want looking to. A good many winners are softer in expression and larger in eye than I like for what should be a really good little workman. I think as regards weight, by limiting it we shall lose bone and general substance. I should prefer, instead of saying "under so many pounds, to substitute "under so many inches. We should then get small cloddy ones, with the bone a terrier ought to possess. With regard to the point values, I should not like to take off from the points given for either head, neck, eyes, feet, and shoulders; still I think 5 points too few for hindquarters, and it strikes me that so few points being given for this very important point has caused the neglect which has done so much harm, resulting in many otherwise perfect specimens becoming practically cripples.

LADY EDITH VILLIERS.-There has been a great improvement in type the last year or two. At one time they were inclined to get too much on the leg, and be too big altogether, and with the wrong expression. Great attention should be paid to correcting the faulty hindquarters. It is often said that the show fox terrier is no workman. This is of course the case when they are not entered. So many terriers hardly leave their kennels except for the show-bench, and are not able to look out for themselves like those running about all day. One of my prize terriers, bred by Mr. M'Null, was very game; she ran all last season with the Pytchley, and bolted many foxes. Another dog I had of Mr. Vicary's, by Ch. Venio, would go to ground anywhere, and without any noise seize a fox or badger, and stay with it till dug out. To my mind, an "ideal" smooth fox terrier should be in make and shape exactly similar to a good hunter-good length of neck, sloping shoulders, short back (this is a point I should be very particular about), strong quarters, with hocks well let down; and it is here that so many of the present-day terriers fail-also in coat, nearly all the smooths being soft and too long. I think nearly all the good coated ones have come from the late Mr. Burbridge's famous Hunton strain. A good fox terrier's head cannot be too long, provided it is not snipey; and he should stand on short legs, with bone well let down. This is my idea of what a good fox terrier should be, and, in addition, capable of doing anything required of him from bolting a fox-which, after all, his name implies as his legitimate métier-to being an ideal companion for either a man or woman. He is always ready for anything, and can be either grave or gay, as the occasion requires.

MR. J. C. TINNÉ.-There is not only one type. Better if there was! But judges must take things as they are, and to hold one's judgment to one type, excluding all others, is manifestly unfair; because to do so might result in placing inferior terriers over superior, merely on the ground that the latter were of different type to the former. With regard to point values, it would be difficult to alter the present scale. Perhaps it is the case that too much is given to stern, and too little to hindquarters, expression, and action. The point of size is one in which latitude may be allowed, always provided extremes are avoided. Too small means a toy; too large means inability to go to ground. With two terriers equal in other points, the smaller ought to win, of course. But many people, who don't know, are apt to condemn a terrier as too large, when, as a matter of fact, such a terrier can and does go to earth. Fox earths in various parts of England are not all of the same size.

MR. ROBERT VICARY.—The chief point to be borne in mind now is that of type. In the fashionable craze for bone and feet of foxhound pattern a considerable danger of loss of fox terrier type is probable. Already very few really good heads are to be noticed; the bone in the legs has been developed in the head. Bone is necessary, but should not be overdone; hunters not carthorses are what we want; an ounce of blood is worth a pound of bone. A fox is not overdone with bone, and the terrier merely requires a sufficiency of good quality bone. And as regards feet I never knew a fox terrier to give way in his feet from work; so criticisms on feet are mostly hypercritical, and mere fanciers' points as compared with the sportsman's. There is no better foot for work than with a moderate length of toe, and of moderate size as compared with a small foot. Neither in man, horse, nor terrier is the extremely small neat foot necessary for athletic prowess, a great drawback in a horse, and no catch at all for a terrier. The small-footed ones are usually a bit off on their knees. There is no breed of dogs which combines substance and quality to such a high degree as a fox terrier, save, on a larger scale, the foxhound. Every point in a fox terrier is straight and beautiful; other breeds are admired for their monstrosities. If the true fox terrier type is adhered to, the intelligence, pluck, beauty, and jolliness of this breed will always command a big majority over any other save the foxhound.

MR. FRANCIS REDMOND.—I am quite satisfied with type. It is the same type that our oldest and most enthusiastic breeders have for twenty-five years been breeding to, and it would to-day be

difficult to improve upon our best specimens, except in point of size. The dogs, more particularly, should be smaller. I fully agree with the values of the points in the Standard of Points, but consider that judges, generally, should value a good little one more highly than a good big one; they can get to ground better, and, when there, work much faster and better than a big one. The fox terrier is one of the most handsome and symmetrical dogs of all time, and it is this perfect symmetry and balance that makes him one of the most active and untiring of all dogs. A foxhound is, possibly, the most symmetrical of all animals; the fox terrier is built on much the same lines, showing a shade more quality. And there is great cause for satisfaction in the reflection that a smooth fox terrier requires no excessive care, faking, or trimming for exhibition. The pluck and workmanlike qualities of the modern fox terrier are sometimes called into question, and compared unfavourably with those of dogs of the past. I would state most emphatically that I consider the fox terrier of to-day as game and hard as any breed of terrier that ever existed. This is expressing a great deal, but I am speaking from an experience of over twenty-five years, having used them at all work a terrier is bred for. Naturally there are exceptions in every breed, and much depends on the way terriers are entered to work. Like horses, many a good one is spoiled in the breaking. I have known show fox terriers go to ground, and mark fox and badger in the gamest way possible; and more than one have I known meet his death at his work, when, after hours of digging through the night, by the aid of lanterns and candles, the diggers, in the early dawn, have come across an old favourite cheek by jowl with his prey-but, alas, both terrier and badger were dead. One I remember in particular, who thus met his death,—a well-known show-bench specimen. I have also had a recent instance of a well-known prize-winner, who, after nearly six years of exhibition life, being 6 years old, was sent to a keeper to be broken to ferrets, and within two weeks was perfect at his new occupation, and is now one of the keenest and gamest workers I have ever had, or want to have. A son of this bitch, bred on both sides from show-bench champions, is so keen and hard that our huntsman (William Wells, of the Hertfordshire) writes me, "He is too hard bitten to trust to ground. I would like a milder one, that would go to ground in safety."

MR. W. S. GLYNN.—I am not satisfied with type, especially with regard to dogs. As a rule most of the prize-winners in dogs

are much too big.

MR. J. A. DOYLE.-On the whole I am satisfied with type. Some are oversized, but not so many as formerly. A good many are rather weak in hindquarters, and coats want improvement. I wish to express my entire dissent from the view that the type of fox terrier has changed. I am quite sure that if any of the great winners of former days-I mean the dogs who won under competent and trustworthy judges, such as Mr. FitzWilliam, Mr. Bonett, or Mr. Scott-could be exhibited, they would win now; and in the same way any of the above-named judges would fully recognise the merits of the crack dogs of to-day.

MR. J. H. WRIGHT.-A definite size should be arrived at. The fox terriers of to-day are well nigh perfect as regards head properties, body, bone, and quality, but still of various sizes. A meeting of our noted breeders and exhibitors should be convened, and the definite height at shoulder fixed. All judges should penalise terriers above the height agreed upon. In point values I would certainly create a good value for correct size.

CAPT. C. J. WILKIE.-The majority of even our best dogs are too big and leggy, and many are weak in hindquarters. The desire to obtain long-headed dogs, and the exaggerated importance so many judges appear to attach to the heads would seen to be responsible for this state of things. Coats also require more attention; a short, hard, close jacket is what is wanted. The keen, restless, dare-devil expression of a true terrier is too seldom seen. The point values are about right, but judges do not heed them, it would appear. How often one sees a dog excelling in all but head go down before a dog whose only merit is in his wonderful head and ears. Such being the case in practice, I should myself be inclined to reduce the points for "head and ears" and add them to those for hindquarters.

MR. LINDLEY GILL is satisfied with type, if the dogs are kept on the small side; but would like better feet and legs. MR. MONYPENNY thinks a little more attention should be paid to the hind action, as there is a tendency to the cow-hock. MR. FRANK HILL thinks there might be an improvement in head, terrier expression, and character. Many terriers at shows are plain in the head, round in skull, and light in the eye, and he advocates the issue of a scale of measurements by the Fox Terrier Club, to accompany the Standard of Points, and fix a limit, as weight is not always to be relied upon. MR. PERCY HOWARD would increase the point values for hindquarters to secure more attention to this point.

the chaos of terrierdom about the 'Fifties. Idolaters of the breed will tell you that he existed a hundred, two hundred, even three hundred years ago. So he did; so did all dogs in the germ, for they are begotten, not created, though we have come to use the latter word in a particular sense as indicating that a breed of dogs may be so craftily begotten as to be practically original in its developed type. But you cannot claim for the fox terrier the same distinctiveness of type in those "mists-of-obscurity" days as you can for such breeds as the mastiff, the collie, the toy spaniel, the Italian greyhound, and the Maltese dog. In the first place, there is no possible manner of doubt but that the terriers of a hundred years ago were a “scratch" lot; you have only to assure yourself of the fact by peeping into old books, or glancing at old pictures or engravings. The historian, in fact, treats them most cavalierly; confines the eighteen modern varieties into which the clan has branched into two groups— the smooth and the broken-haired, and dismisses them with a cold disdain of detail. Even Reinagle illumines us less than was his usual wont in his matchless pictures, as you may see by the outline sketch of his trio of terriers which I am able to give. A second group of three terriers, depicted a few pages farther on, indicates the fashions of 1843, whilst in a book published in 1862 -a modern" supplement to Cuvier's Animal Kingdom-occurs the following description of the tribe:

The Terrier.--Two distinct varieties are used for the purpose of entering the burrows of foxes, badgers, etc. The first is generally black on the back, sides, head, and tail; but his belly, neck, paws, and tip of tail a bright or reddish brown, with a spot of the like colour over each eye. The hair is short; the tail is carried slightly curved upwards; the ears are short and erect; and the snout is moderately elongated. Though small, it is a very resolute dog, and a determined enemy of rats, rabbits, and