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for a member to serve in parliament, were thought proper to confer on him and his not duly administered by or in the pre- descendants. sence of the proper magistrates, officer or “ The Prince Regent recommends, officers, appointed to administer the same; therefore, to the House of Commons the and that, after the teste of the writ of sum- adoption of such measures as may be nemons to parliament, and at and during the cessary for the accomplishment of this election aforesaid, the said F. Ponsonby, most important object. G. P. R.” by himself, friends, agents, and others on Ordered to be taken into consideration his behalf, and particularly by the said on Monday. right hon. D. B. Daly, then and still mayor of the said town of Galway, did
HOUSE OF LORDS, present and allow, and promise to present and allow, to divers persons having votes
Monday, December 7. at such election, money, meat, drink, en- PRINCE REGENT'S MESSAGE RESPECTtertainment, gift, and reward, in order THE MARQUIS OF WELLINGTON.] that the said hon. F. Ponsonby might be The order of the day being read, for takelected to serve in parliament for the town ing into consideration his Royal Highand county of the town of Galway afore- ness's Message, respecting the marquis of said ; and that, by the said several and Wellington, other undue means, the said F. Ponsonby The Earl of Liverpool said :-In rising, obtained an apparent majority of votes my lords, to propose an Address in answer over the petitioner at the said election, to his Royal Highness's most gracious Mes. and has been returned as duly elected, al- sage, for the purpose of expressing your though the petitioner had a legal majority lordships' concurrence in forwarding his of votes in his favour, and ought to have Royal Highness's intention, I am sure I been returned to serve in parliament for should be wasting your lordships' time, the said town and county of the town of if I were to say one word in recommendaGalway; and praying the House to de. tion of such a motion. After the able and clare the election of the said F. Ponsonby eloquent speech of my noble friend (earl for the said town and county of the town Bathurst) on a former evening, in moving of Galway void; and that the said return the thanks of this House to that gallant may be amended or altered, by striking and distinguished general, and after the thereout the name of the said F. Ponsonby able speeches of other noble lords, and of and inserting in the place thereof the name the noble marquis opposite (Lansdowne), of the petitioner, and that the petitioner upon the same occasion, it would be immay be declared duly elected and re. possible, my lords, for me to add one exturned to represent the town and county pression which could evince more of my of the town of Galway in this present par- own admiration, or raise a higher opinion liament, or to make such other order for of the noble marquis's conduct. At the the petitioner's relief in the premises as same time, I will venture to occupy a the House, in its wisdom, shall think fit.” small portion of your lordships' attention
Ordered to be taken into consideration in stating a few circumstances respecting upon the 11th of February.
this great general, which I think are en
titled to consideration. His Royal Highness The Prince REGENT'S MESSAGE RE- has stated, that in wishing to confer upon SPECTING THE MARQUIS OF WELLINGTON.) the noble marquis, by an act of munifiLord Castlereagh presented the following cence, what will enable him to support his Message from the Prince Regent : merited dignities, he has taken into con“ GEORGE, P. R.
sideration the signal services the noble “The Prince Regent, acting in the marquis has performed for his country, name and on the behalf of his Majesty, and these services, so constant and unhaving taken into his consideration the wearied, cannot be too much valued. For eminent and signal services performed by four campaigns, my lords, has the marquis general the marquis of Wellington on so of Wellington devoted the powers of his many occasions, and particularly in the body and mind, to the conduct of the war glorious battle of Salamanca, is desirous of in the peninsula. In the course of that bestowing such a mark of national munifi- period, he has been opposed to the most cence on general the marquis of Welling-celebrated and experienced of the French ton as may enable him to sustain the high generals, to Soult, to Victor, to Jourdan, honours which his Royal Highness has to Massena, and to Marmont, and not only, my lords, has he been opposed to motion, after the able and just mode in all these, but he has overcome them. In which the marquis of Wellington's distindeed, when we reflect that the whole of guished services had been described ; in this period has been devoted to the cause every word of which he most heartily conof his country, without the exception of a curred. He had only to remark that the day, when we reflect what privations he proposition of the noble earl had his entire must have endured, that no considerations approbation, and he felt satisfied in hearof personal ease could divert him from his ing the statement and extent of the grant object, that no fatigue, that no considera- intended, and the manner in which it was tions of private policy could shake him in meant to be appropriated. the discharge of these important public The Address was then agreed to nem. duties, we are led to wonder at that diss. strength both of body and of mind which could support him under all these circun- Vice CHANCELLOR's Bill.] Lord Holstances, and for so long a period. The land was desirous of submitting to their marquis of Wellington, my lords, is justly lordships' attention, a motion for further sensible of the high honours which have information respecting the Bill introduced been conferred upon him, for no greater by the noble and learned lord (Redesdale). perbaps ever fell to the lot of any man; The noble and learned lord, on a former eight times he has received the thanks of night, had expressed his intention to opparliament, and in six out of those eight pose every proposition for delay. But he times he was commander in chief. But in (lord Holland) was no further desirous of respect to any pecuniary compensation, delay, than that before the House passed independent of the reward which on a a measure of such importance, they former occasion was voted by the legisla- should have every information requisite io ture to lord Wellington, instead of having form their judgment upon it. He, therehad, during all these campaigns, any op- fore, intended to move for the Report of portunity of increasing his fortune, he has, the Committee of the House of Commons, I believe, on many occasions experienced appointed to inquire into the causes of deits diminution. I shall not detain your lay, in the decision of suits in the Court of lordships further, than by proceeding to Chancery. He was the more desirous of make that proposition which I am con- having this information before them, as it vinced will be unanimous, because it is would enable the House better to decide one in which you are called upon to con- upon the propriety of the Bill, and give cur, in justice to lord Wellington, and to time for the attendance of several noble yourselves. Because, my lords, in confer-lords who, no doubt, would be desirous of ring upon lord Wellington a reward for his delivering their sentiments upon the subpast and distinguished services, you only ject. There were many objections he do that to which he is entitled as an indi- entertained against this measure, which he vidual ; and when you take care to re- would not enter into at present, but which ward so great and undisputed services in would probably be stated upon the third such an individual, you adopt the wisest reading; and "he trusted the noble and policy for the preservation and security of learned lord would so far accede to a full your country. I may here add what more consideration of his intended measure, as properly comes first under consideration to postpone its final consideration till after in another place, that it is the intention of the holidays. In the mean time he should government to propose a grant of 100,0001. make the motion of which he had given to be vested in landed property, for the notice, and against which, he believed, use of the noble marquis and his heirs, there could be no objection. and in such manner as will be more par- Lord Redesdale did not rise to oppose ticularly described in the act for that pur- the motion of the noble lord, but he could pose. The noble earl concluded, by assuré the House, that no inforination moving an humble Address to the Prince could be derived from the Report alluded Regent, thanking him for his most gracious to, capable of altering their opinions upon Message, and assuring him that their the neasure which he had the honour to lordships will most readily concur in car- propose: Their lordships would recollect rying his Royal Highness's intentions into that this subject had been under their coneffect.
sideration for nearly three years; that a Lord Holland had no disposition to committee had been appointed, who were make any observation upon the present unanimously of opinion that the evil com:
plained of required immediate remedy ; | ever early this Bill might pass, a consideand that the same committee, composed rable part of the session was likely to of persons of all others most competent to elapse before it could be carried into suggest a remedy, bad recommended the effect. He was, therefore, inclined to opmeasure now proposed. With respect to pose any measure whatever likely to pro. the motion of the noble lord, it only went duce delay, but at the same time he to the production of a Report which had could not object to the motion of the noble little connection with the causes and lord. grounds of the present measure. The Re- Upon the order of the day being read port was made by a committee appointed for going into a committee upon the Bill, to enquire into the causes of delay in the Lord Holland again rose, and addressed proceedings of the Court of Chancery, the House upon the subject of this meaand chiefly arose, he believed, out of a He was the more induced to state disposition to ascertain whether the causes his sentiments, in consequence of what had in that court had increased. The causes fallen from the noble and learned lord. in that court had certainly increased, and, The noble and learned lord had intimated from the increase of causes in all the his surprize, that no other measure had courts below, the Lord Chancellor was been proposed by bim instead of that precluded from deriving that assistance recommended in ihe present Bill. With from the judges, which was given to my respect to himself, he did not consider his lord Hardwicke and others. But the in- knowledge equal to the task; and be crease of causes in the Court of Chancery deemed the argument a little extraordinary did not apply to the increase of Appeals which would infer, that because he did and Writs of Error in the House of Lords. not possess that legal knowledge which The arrear of these Appeals and Writs of was most competent to suggest the fittest Error was enormous; it now amounted to plan to be adopted, it was to be inferred more than 270, which would require from that he could not consistently state his ob12 to 13 years to decide, according to the jections to the one proposed. The noble mode in which these causes had been and learned lord would do bim the justice hitherto decided, without taking into cal- to recollect, that on a former occasion he culation the accumulating arrear which had not publicly, but privately, commuwould take place in the interval. This nicated to him his objections to the predelay in the decision of Appeals was a sent measure, This was, however, a growing evil, and one of enormous magni. serious subject, as it affected the state and tude and great grievance to the suitor.- the law of the country; and although he The noble and learned lord next proceeded was afraid he might discover ignorance in to notice the hardships of many individual his own ideas respecting it, yet, when he cases, where the parties were put to the saw the noble and learned lord so anxious most serious loss and the greatest incon- to push this measure in the absence of venience. In one instance, the rents and those who could have more ably pointed profits now depending, in consequence of out its impropriety, he felt himself partidelay, amounted to 30,0001. and, in others, cularly called upon to express his objec. his lordship shewed what injurious effects tions to the Bill." With respect to all that might result from a further delay on the had been stated as to the magnitude of the death of the parties. The measure pro- evil complained of, and the immediate posed by the present Bill had been dis necessity for its being remedied, he and cussed in the last session, and neither the the noble and learned lord were perfectly noble lord, nor any other peer, had then agreed ;, but he entertained very serious suggested 'any alteration in lieu of the objections against the mode now recom. present. When the Bill miscarried in the mended, not because it would be an unconother House, he had promised to bring it stitutional measure-no, he had formerly forward this session; and, in now pro- stated that this would be a material alteposing it to their lordships' consideration, ration in the constitution of this country, he had kept his word and discharged his and certainly he thought 30 still-but with duty. It was intended that a Vice-Chan- all the admiration he ever should cherish cellor should attend to the business of for the British constitution, he would be Chancery, while the noble and learned ever ready to acquiesce in any
alteration lord on the woolsack sat from ten till three which should be proved to be necessary, o'clock, for three days in the week, decid- and likely to be effectual for the purposes ing cases now before the House. How- for which it was intended. He begged, in speaking upon this subject, to be plain- similar to that of bankruptcy; and he ly understood, and that when he mention- trusted he would pursue his intention of ed his objections, he meant them not to supplying the remedies which had been apply to the noble and learned lord who so often applied to the shame of the legispresided on the woolsack, for whom no lature—he meant temporary acts of inone could entertain a bigher opinion. solvency. That measure of the noble and With regard to that high office, no one learned lord would require the appointwas more anxious that it should be reward-ment of a distinct court, and he did not ed with a salary commensurate to its im- perceive why a similar and distinct proviportance, and its utility in the constitu- sion might not be made in the case of tion. In saying this, nevertheless, he la- bankrupts. mented that a part of the income of that Lord Redesdale had no desire to have office arose from bankruptcies-from the this measure passed through parliament distressed property of the subjects of the before the holidays; but under the consicountry. Not one farthing of this income deration of its necessity, he trusted their did he desire to see retrenched; but it lordships would agree to its passing that would be more satisfactory to the person House, in order that it might go to the filling that high office, that this portion of Commons as speedily as possible. With his income should arise to bim by a direct respect to the objection mentioned by the grant in another manner. Perhaps if an noble lord, as to the division of the office officer were appointed to administer the of chancellor, it must be recollected, that bankrupt laws, instead of the lord chan- still the lord high chancellor would be cellor, it might relieve that bigha officer so constantly occupied in the decision of most much as to enable him to dispatch the bu- intricate and important points of law before siness of that House and the Court of Chan- that House. It was impossible, therefore, cery. But he felt strong objections to the that the office could be filled by an incomdivision of the office of lord high chancel petent person, any more than in its prelor itself. Thal office he regarded as one sent constitution. The lord chancellor most important in the state, and one most would then equally, as now, be under the useful to the country. As it was now con- observation of the public; and, consider. stiluted, it could not be filled by an ing the importance of his legal know, incompetent person; it must be filled by ledge in the advice of the crown, it was one deeply imbued with legal knowledge; highly improbable that any minister and he left it for the House to consider would venture to appoint any other than how important it must ever be to the state, a person whose talents and learning fitted that such a person should have a seat in him for the situation. The noble lord had the councils of his sovereign, and how suggested the propriety of separating the useful it must be to the country that the administration of the bankrupt law from head of the law should be dignified by the office of chancellor; but cases of such a station in the government. He vital consequence to the commerce of the was not speaking these sentiments with country, more so than all the cases put toconsideration to the conduct of the noble gether in the courts below, came before and learned lord on the woolsack ; but him for decision; and it would be per. when he looked to future times, he was ap-haps dangerous to this department of the prehensive that the consequence of this di- law, if the adjudication of these cases vision of the office would be, that the lord were committed to any other jurisdiction. high chancellor would become a mere po- - With regard to the salary of the new litical character in the state, and that the judge, there were other sources from vice-chancellor would be the real and whence it might be paid, without burthenonly legal decider of the law. There ing the people. It would be considered, might be other means of remedy more ef- that the property of suitors, by various ac. fectual, and not likely to be attended with cidents, fell into the hands of Chancery, mischiefs greater than those it was intendand had created a fund of considerable ed to cure. He instanced the relief the magnitude. The amount of this property lord chancellor might experience in al- now vested in the bank of England, extering the administration of the law receeded 400,0001. and it would not require specting bankruptcies. The noble and half of that sum to create a permanent learned lord who spoke last was entitled salary for the vice-chancellor, and there to much praise for the attention he had could be no objection to the application paid to the alteration of a part of the law of that fund for the purpose.
The Bill then passed through a Com- neral councils; that the baneful influence mittee, and was ordered to be reported to- of these tenets is not to be ascertained from morrow.
the exterior of society in Protestant esta blishments, where the number of Roman
Catholics is comparatively small, not in HOUSE OF COMMONS.
Great Britain, where they are kept in Monday, December 7.
check by the strong arm of Protestant PETITION FROM LEICESTER CLERGY NE- power; but in Popish governments, by SPECTING THE ROMAN CATHOLICS.] Mr. the persecutions of all without the pale of Lee Keck presented a Petition from the their own Church, but exclusive of facts, archdeacon and clergy of the archdea- that their tenets are so incompatible with conry and county of Leicester, setting the civil and religious liberty of our conforth,
stitution that they cannot harmonize to" That the archdeacon and clergy afore gether, there can be no communion of said, take the liberty of stating to the amity and unity between them; and is it House, that although they have hitherto to be imagined that the possession of polibeen passive observers of the growing tical power will operate as a soporific on claims of our Roman Catholic brethren, tenets always active in self-aggrandizethe period is now arrived when silence ment, and never quiescent unless in a state might seem to sanction those general of compression ; and that the petitioners claims of freedom from all disabilities, which cannot by any casuistry conscientiously they beg leave to oppose for the following pronounce a religion to be corrupt and reasons ; viz. that the repeal of the restric idolatrous, yet appear to support it; retive statutes, graciously intended to pacify nounce communion with it as erroneous, the discontents of the Roman Catholics, and yet do any thing that may contribute hath only served to render their discon- to the spread of its errors ;' invest its tents less peaceful; that civil privileges members with honour and power which awarded to them as the ultimatum of their may render their example more attractive, desires, and, upon their own avowal, as without participating in the corruption closing the doors of parliament against and idolatry of those who may thus be them, were received with a secret reserve misled; and that the principles avowed at of being only pro hac vice, and have the Revolution, recognized and interwoven opened a still wider door for future de- in the very texture of the Coronation Oath mands: that concessions seem only to
ever since, and with most religious firahave begotten fresh concessions, lo be re- ness adhered to by the father of his peopeated till nothing be left to be conceded, ple, our most gracious, venerable, and and that in the original formation of a beloved monarch, throughout his very arcivil government, the Roman Catholics duous reign, embolden us to hope that no might perhaps demand the allowance of peculiarity of times and circumstances their claims, but in one already formed, will lead to the removal of those sacred and whose constitutional laws are funda- bulwarks by which our ancestors have mentally hostile to such claim, they can happily secured the safely of the Church, only be granted upon the principle of ex- the throne, and the Protestant community pediency, and as an experiment which is at large ; and that however desirious the pregnant with danger to civil and religious petitioners may be to conciliate the esteem liberty, and therefore not to be hazarded; and prove their charity for their Roman and that the petitioners do not and cannot Catholic brethren, by acquiescing in consider this question in a political view, their claims, yet the paramount doty of to the exclusion of religious principles, ali preserving the existing establishments dethe actions of moral agents being in one nies them that satisfaction, and obliges sense, and that the only guarantee of in- them to declare, in conjunction with the tegrity strictly of a religious nature, not great mass of the Protestant population of Jess so in the cabinet than in the church; the empire, and it is humbly hoped of and that the resistance of the petitioners Protestant Houses of Lordsand, Commons is not founded merely upon any difference Nolumus Leges Angliæ mutari.”-Ordered in the creeds of Protestants and Roman to lie on the table. Catholics considered in the abstract, but upon the nature of this difference as in. GREAT GRIMSBY ELECTION-PETITION volving tenets of exclusive salvation, OF ELECTORS.) A Petition of Charles Lowforeign allegiance, and infallibility of ge- cock, William Wray, and William Nundy,