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posed measure might then be arrested. ted. He confessed that he did not pretend But he conceived that all the steps which to see a way out of the difficulties into had been since taken, were the natural and which the country had been brought in unavoidable successors of the original this respect by the councils that he had error. The Bill before the House was di- opposed. On the contrary, he was of vided into two heads; the first, very justly opinion, that during the last two years securing to the public creditor, who was those difficulties had become so much paid in paper, the power of making, in his more numerous and complicated that they turn, payment in paper operative on all were out of the reach of any sudden rewho had demands on him. The other medy. He would not, therefore, vote for head related more immediately to the ori- the amendment, because it held out a hope, ginal resolution; it prohibited the pur- which, as he did not entertain, he would chase and sale of guineas at a price above not appear to sanction that in such a lie their nominal value. Now, he confessed, mited period as that to which the amendthat he did not think the latter part of the ment referred, some remedy might be dismeasure necessary or justifiable, otherwise covered for the existing evil. He trusted, than as it went to bear out the legislature however, that the operation of the Bill itin their original resolution; for he could self would be only for a limited period, not conceive nor had he ever heard de and that during that period the attention scribed the inconvenience of allowing of those to whom the consideration of the guineas, which, being no longer in circu- subject was a duty, would be turned to it lation, were only pieces of bullion, to find with a view of providing, if not a remedy their level in the market like any other com for the evils which had already been inmodities, and not to be driven into hoards curred, at least a preventive for those or out of the country. As to penal laws greater evils which a perseverance in the for preventing the exportation of any present system must necessarily occasion. coin, when that coin could be disposed of Mr. Butterworth read a letter from a abroad at a higher value than that at friend in the country, in which the which it would pass at home, it was a writer recommended strongly the passing subject on which all authorities agreed. It of the Bill before the House, in order to was the concurrent opinion of all writers save the people in his neighbourhood from on political economy-of all statesmen- the most serious loss, if not from ruin. of all financiers, that let such laws be as Mr. Alderman Atkins expressed bis desanguinary as possible-let them be written cided opinion, that the present state of our in blood, they would be ineffective. The circulating medium was not owing to the great Colbert had declared, that if a wall of conduct of ministers, or of any other set of brass were built round a country, the pre- men; but to the growing commerce of cious metals would find some chink through the country, which the whole metallic curwhich to escape, if it were the interest of rency of the world would have been inany of the community that they should sufficient to supply; and he earnestly do so. Respecting the propriety of this wished that this fact were distinctly unpart of the Bill, therefore, he entertained derstood throughout the country. considerable doubts : with regard to the unfortunate necessity of the other part of
The House then divided : the Bill, he had no doubt. But he wished For the Amendment................ 19 particularly to guard himself from the sup. Against it.........
129 position that he would vote in any stage
-110 of the Bill on the ground taken by the right hon. gentleman and another hon.
List of the Minority. member, namely, that the country must reconcile itself to the present onerous Abercromby, Hon. J. Lewis, F. state of things, and must be content to Brand, Hon. T.
Martin (Tewksbury). build its future prosperity upon it, aban- Babington, T. North, D. doning all hope of setting right that most
Bennet, Hon. H. G, Phillips, G.
Combe, H. important of subjects--the situation of our
Ponsonby, Rt. Hon. G.
Veruon, G. internal
Fazakerley, N. Whitbread, s.
Westerne, C. C.
COLCHESTER Election Petition of and procured themselves to be returned; MR. Harvey.) A Petition of Daniel and that, at the time of the said election Whittle Harvey, esq., was delivered in and return, the said R. Thornton was not and read; setting forth,
seised of, or entitled to, such an estate in “ That, at the last election for the bo- law or equity as would enable him to be rough of Colchester, the petitioner, and rejurned for the said borough, according also Robert Thornton and Hart Davis, to the statute of the 9th queen Anne, esqrs. were candidates; and that a poll whereas the petitioner alleges that he had being duly demanded, the same a majority of legal votes at the said elecgranted by the returning officer, and pro- tion, and ought to have been returned ceeded on accordingly, that the said re- which said several corrupt practices of the turning officer admitted many persons to said R, Thornton and H. Davis have been vote, and entered their names in the poll and are, to the manifest injury of the pea book for the said R. Thornton and H. Davis, titioner, and in violation of the freedom who had no right or title to vote, and re- and purity of elections; and praying, jected the votes of many persons having that the premises may be taken into conright and title to vote, and who tendered sideration, and that the House will dethem for the petitioner, and whose votes clare that the petitioner was duly elected, ought to have been received for the peti- and ought to have been returned to serve tioner, and entered accordingly; and that in parliament for the borough of Colthe said R. Thornton and H. Davis, by chester, or give such other relief as to the themselves, their several and respective House shall seem fit.” agents, did, after the teste of the writ of Ordered to be taken into consideration election, and at and during the said elec- on the 18th February. tion, and before their election, give, present, and allow, to divers persons having votes in the said election, money, meat,
HOUSE OF LORDS. drink, and entertainment, and provision,
Wednesday, December 9. and make presents, gifts, rewards, and en- Catholic Claims.] The Archbishop of tertainments, and agreements, obligations, Canterbury presented a Petition from the and engagements to give, and allow dean and chapter of Canterbury, against money, meat, drink, provision, presents, the Catholic Claims, which was ordered rewards, and entertainments, to and for to lie on the table. such persons, and to and for the use and The Duke of Norfolk expressed his regret advantage, benefit, emolument, and profit at the hostility of the petitioners to those and preferment of such persons, in order concessions to our Catholic fellow-subjects, to be elected; and that the said R. Thorn- which he considered essential to the safety ton and H. Davis, before and at and dur- and welfare of the state, coupled with an ing the time of the said ele n, by them. adequate security to the Protestant esta-, selves, their several and respective agents, blishment, to which establishment no man friends, managers, and others on their be- was a warmer friend than himself. He half, were guilty of bribery and corrup-was surprised also at the fear expressed in tion, and corrupt practices, and that the the Petition, that granting the claims of said R. Thornton and H. Davis, before the the Catholics would lead to the repeal of the said election, and at and during the same, Test and Corporation Acts, and thereby by themselves, their several and respective remove the security of the Protestant estaagents, friends, managers, and others blishment. It was well known that no employed by them on their behalf, did, ministry bad ventured to enforce these by gifts and by rewards, and by pro acts; that they were hung up from year mises, agreements, and securities for gifts to year, and that no ministry, however inand rewards, corrupt and procure divers tolerant, could venture to carry them into persons to give their votes on the said execution. He hoped that these Petitions election for them, the said R. Thornton were merely the over-zeal of individuals, and H. Davis, and to forbear to give their and that they were not set on foot by any votes to the petitioner, by which said of his Majesty's ministers. He trusted, unlawful and corrupt practices of the said however, that as the discussion of the R. Thornton and H. Davis, their agents, great question relative to the Catholic friends, managers, and others, they the claims was not to come on till after the said R. Thornton' and H. Davis obtained holidays, that all the Petitions against an apparent majority over the petitioner, those claims would be by that time before ( VOL. XXIV.)
the House, in order that they might be upon rice imported from any other the better enabled to take the whole sub- quarter than the East Indies. He depreject into consideration.
cated any objection to this proposition,
upon the ground, that it applied to a ne. HOUSE OF COMMONS. cessary of life, for in point of fact the
operation of the case would be to secure Wednesday, December 9.
a supply of rice from our own territories, Gold Coin Bill.] On the motion for while, if circumstances should render the going into a Committee on this Bill, importation of the article desirable from
Lord Folkestone said, he wished it to be America or elsewhere, it would not be passed only for a few months, in order that raised inconveniently high to the conihe House might have time to give suffi
The necessity of this arrangecient consideration to the measure. He ment, he illustrated by referring to an inwas altogether against the renewal of this stance in which government had paid 5 or Bill, and thought what had passed in the 600,0001, in bounties on the importation debate last night sufficient to lead him to of rice from the East Indies, which rice that opinion. Of all the speakers last had never been used for human food, but night, ihe right hon. the Chancellor of the devoted to poultry, in consequence of the Exchequer was the only one who spoke importation from other places. Here, in praise of the Bill. Whilst several who then, was a loss to the treasury and to the voted for it said that they did so not from importers, without any relief to the public. any approbation of its principle, but To prevent the occurrence of such an under the influence of various temporary event, he proposed to withdraw the bounty circumstances. He had many objections upon East Indian rice, while an additional to the Bill, and said, that the legislature tax was imposed upon rice imported from ought to pass laws for the prevention, not other quarters. The right hon. gentle- . for the production and multiplication of man submitted a resolution, That an adcrimes. This Bill increased the tempta- ditional duty of ten shillings per cwt. be tion to crime, drove all our gold and silver imposed upon all rice imported from any out of the market, and, by thus increasing country not belonging to his Majesty, or their value as compared with Bank of not within the territories of the East India England notes, promoted the buying and Company. The motion was agreed to. selling of guineas. The persons who had been punished under this Bill being
HOUSE OF LORDS. mostly ignorant, and therefore unable to understand, or perhaps to read the act, had
Thursday, December 10. been seduced and entrapped. But why Appeals.] Lord Redesdale mentioned, had not a late wholesale offender, the that it would be of great importance to person who offered 27,000 guineas to the the public service to have a speedy deright hon. the Chancellor of the Exchen cision on an Appeal now before the House, quer, and who could not be ignorant of relative to encroachments in Portsmouth the provisions of the act, why had he not Harbour, and suggested the expediency of been brought to justice? It might be hearing it on an early day after the reeven said, that the right hon. the Chancellor of the Exchequer neglected his duty The Lord Chancellor said, he had no obto the public (for gold was much wanted jection to take this Appeal out of its for the public service) in not accepting of course, provided it could be done withthe offer; for be had it in his power to out injustice to the other suitors before the pay for the sum in country bank notes, House. If the Appeal now alluded to by which means he could have evaded could be heard in the morning, so that it the provisions of the Bill.
might not interfere with the regular ćourse The House then resolved into the Com-ot proceeding in regard to other appeals, mittee, and the several clauses were agreed he should be willing to agree to such an to.
arrangement. It would be felt to be an
indispensible act of justice to the other DUTIES ON Rice.) The House having suitors to make some such an arrangeresolved into a committee upon the Duties ment, when he stated, that of the 270 on Rice,
Appeals and Writs of Error now on the The Chancellor of the Exchequer stated table, the last of them, according to the his object to be the proposition of a tax mode of hearing hitherto acted upon,
could not be decided for eleven years he would not have suffered the measure from this time.
to have gone on to its ultimate stage, had Lord Redesdale had no objection to agree he not been thoroughly convinced of its to this arrangement. It was only the im. absolute necessity, for the assistance of portance of the case to the public service suitors in that House. that induced him to propose to take it out of its course. His lordship went into the
HOUSE OF COMMONS. consideration of the Bill recently passed
Thursday, December 10. by the House and sent down to the Com. TREGONY ELECTION-Petition of Ma. mons, for the appointment of a Vice-Chan- | O‘CALLAGAN AND MR. THORNHILL.) A cellor, observing, that either that measure Petition of James O’Callagan and Thomas must be carried, or the House must aban. Thornbill esquires, was delivered in and don its appellate jurisdiction. Which was read; setting forth, the more constitutional course, it needed “That at the last election for the borough no argument to point out. The greatest of Tregony, Alex. Cray Grant, and Wilgrievances and hardships to parties arose liam Holmes, esquires, and the petitioners from the delay in hearing appeals in that James O'Callagan, and Thomas Thornhill House, and the only effectual remedy he esquires, were candidates; and that the conceived to be, to give assistance to the mayor of the said borough is the proper Lord Chancellor in the Court of Chancery, returning officer; and that John Hearle, in order to enable that noble and learned at the time of the said election, was mayor; lord to sit in the House of Lords, at times and that the said W. Holmes and A. C. when at present he was required to sit in Grant, by themselves, and each of them the Court of Chancery. It was also of by himself, and by his and their agents, importance that some measure should be &c. did make presents, gifts, rewards, and adopted to compel the attendance of peers, entertainment, and promises, agreements, during the mornings for three or four days obligations, and engagements to give and in the week, in order to the hearing and allow money, meat, drink, provision, predeciding upon appeals with a due regard sents, rewards, advantages, and entertainto the functions of the House, and the ment to and for several persons so having interests of suitors. His lordship moved or claiming right to vote in the said electhat the Appeal in question should be tion, and to and for the use, advantage, taken into consideration on the first day benefit, and profit of such persons so hav. after the recess.
ing or claiming right to vote in the said Viscount Melville urged the great im- election, in order to be, and procure themportance of deciding upon this Appeal as selves the said W. Holmes and A. c. speedily as possible, as it involved in a Grant to be elected contrary to and in great degree the existence of Portsmouth contempt of the provision of the act of harbour.
7th William the third, and the standing The Lord Chancellor was perfectly order of the House, whereby the said W. aware of the importance of the case to the Holmes and A. C. Grant were disabled public service, and was anxious that some and incapacitated to serve for the said arrangement might be adopted with a borough, and the election and return of view to its speedy decision. He pro- them are wholly null and void ; and that the posed, therefore, that the hearing should said W. Holmes and A. C. Grant, contrary commence on the first day after' next to and in defiance of the act of the 49th term, at ten o'clock in the morning, and of his present Majesty, in despite of the that the Lords should be summoned during salutary provision therein contained, did, each day of its progress. As to himself, after the passing the said act, and prewhether in or out of office, he would cer- vious to the said election, by themselves, tainly attend. With regard to the Bill and each of them by himself, or some for the appointment of a Vice-Chancellor, person or persons for or on their or his he had cautiously abstained from saying behalf
, give, or cause to be given, or proany thing upon it, being satisfied, that mise or agree to give, a considerable sum although it must be admitted that the Bill of money, gift or reward, to some person had reference only to a Chancellor, and or persons, upon an engagement, contract, not to the Chancellor, still that what fell or agreement, that such last-mentioned from bim upon the subject, would be re. person or persons should, by himself or ceived with a certain degree of prejudice. themselves, or by others at his or their He would, however, say this much, that solicitation, request or command, procure
or endeavour to procure, the relurn of | Graut might be returned for the said bo-
after the said public notice of their incabeball
, give, or procure to be given, and pacity, would be thrown away; and that, did promise to give, or procure to be by the corrupt, undue, and illegal pracgiven, divers offices, places, and employ-tices aforesaid, and by various other corment to divers persons, on an express rupt and illegal means and practices by contract and agreement that such last- the said W. Holmes and A. C. Grant, and mentioned persons should, by themselves their agents, a considerable number of or others, at their solicitation, request, or votes on the poll was obtained by them 'command, procure the return of them the the said W. Holmes and A. C. Grant over said W. Holmes and A. C. Grant, where the petitioners; and the returning officer by the said W. Holmes and A. C. Grant, at the said election illegally returned the were incapacitated to serve in the present
said W. Holmes and A. C. Grant, as duly parliament, and the election and return of elected for the said borough, whereas the them the said W. Holmes and A. C. petitioners had a majority of legal and Grant, are wholly null and void; and that uncorrupt votes, and ought to bave been the returning officer at this election ad- returned for the said borough; and that mitted many persons on the poll for the neither of them, the said W. Holmes and said W. Holmes and A. C. Grant, who had A. C. Grant, had, at the time of his said no right, and were incapable of voting at election and return, such an estate, in law the said election; and that the said W. or equity, to and for his own use and Holmes and A. C. Grant, previous to and benefit, in lands, tenements, or hereditaat the time of the said election, by them. ments, over and above what will satisfy all selves respectively, and by their respective incumbrances that may affect the same, agents and others on their behalf, were, of the annual value of 3001. above reand each of them was guilty of bribery prizes, to qualify him to be elected and and corruption, in order to procure them. returned for the said borough, according selves to be returned members for the said to the tenor and true meaning of the act borough; and that, previous to and at the of parliament in that behalf, whereby the said election, public notice was given to election and returning of each of them are the returning officer, and also to all the void ; and praying, that they may be persons who voted at the said election for heard, by themselves or their counsel, as the said W. Holmes and A. C. Grant, that to the matter of this Petition, and that the they the said W. Holmes and A. C. Grant, said W. Holmes and A. C. Grant may be had given and allowed to divers persons declared not duly elected, and that the having votes at the said election, meat, petitioners may be declared duly elected drink, entertainment, and other provisions, for the said borough of Tregony. " in order to be elected for the said borough, Ordered to be taken into consideration contrary to and in violation of the statute on the 23d of February, in that case made and provided, and the resolution of the House of Commons MOTION RESPECTING THE King's Geragainst such practices; and that the said MAN Legion.] Lord Folkestone rose and W. Holmes and A. C. Grant had been addressed the House nearly as follows:guilty of bribery and corrupt practices, in Sir; the question to which I am about to order to be elected, and had also, by
call the attention of the House appears to themselves, and by others in their be- me one of too much importance to be for half, and with their knowledge and con- a moment withheld from its consideration, sent, given, and promised and agreed I evinced my sense of this importance by to give, divers sums of money, gift, and taking the earliest day possible to give norewards, and offices, places, and employ- tice of a motion with respect to it, and I ment, to divers persons having votes at should have certainly brought it forward the said election, and also to others, in on that day if I had consulted only my order that the said W. Holmes and A. c. own feelings; but an application having