The administration of the quota system becomes awfully important, ai that would be the answer.

Mr. EDMONDSON. Have you personally been the representative of the Sretary of Defense in most of these meetings?

Secretary SHILLITO. Yes, sir: I have.

Mr. EDMONDSON. Was General Lincoln's estimate of eight to 12 Eeetings an accurate one, in which Cabinet participation took place? Secretary SHILLITO, Mr. Chairman, I think that an elaboration on

point would be in order. As you can appreciate, in our installations and logistics operation we have a number of diverse responsibilities. I am not sure exactly what the number of meetings were, but this parCar task force imposed a tremendous amount of time required of as I am sure it did others, and a meeting was not an hour kind of 2. or 2 hour kind of thing. In fact, several of them lasted for 2 11 and between meetings there was the necessity for an extensive sment of work on the part of each one of us that were members of the force.

There were significant amounts of work on the part of the Defense Petroleum Agency people, on the part of Mr. Riley, on the part of M-. Mathews, and the people that work for them. So that between each Eng significant work did take place.

I do not know what number of meetings were held. The chances that the General's comment was possibly correct, but these were Te, very time-consuming meetings in themselves.

Eat most importantly, the time between meetings involved extensive arts of time on the part of each and every one of us.

Mr. EDMONDSON. Do you know how many of those eight to 12 Petr.gs were attended by Secretary Laird himself?

Secretary SHILLITO. I attended all of the meetings myself, with the ex vit on of one. He attended the first one.

Mr. EDMONDSON, Secretary Laird attended the first meeting?

Secretary SHILLITO. Then, I should mention here, too, that there was constant, continuous discussion between myself, Secretary Laird, ar 1 Secretary Packard, as to what went on at each of these meetings, and the Defense posture relative to that which evolved from those

Naturally, of course, there was extensive discussion, and work with Jont Chiefs of Staff, too, sir.

Mr. EDMONDSON. Any further questions?

Mr. BURTON. No.

Mr. EDMONDSON. Well, thank you, Mr. Secretary, for being with us tate in the day. We appreciate your staying here with us. Biographical sketches supplied by Mr. Shillito follow :)

Barry James SHILLITO, ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF DEFENSE (INSTALLATIONS AND

LOGISTICS)

Barry James Shillito was born January 1, 1921, at Dayton, Ohio, the son of Kesan W and Mary Ellen (O'Connor) Shillito. He attended grade schools and Chade High School in Dayton, and the University of Dayton where he ma』Pswd1#n 4evvDgtair s,

Mr Shillito enlisted in the Army Air Corps in 1942 and completed pilot train

until the end of hostilities. After the war, he obtained both commercial and instructor pilot licenses. He also completed his undergraduate study at the University of Dayton and in 1949 received his Bachelor of Science degree.

In 1945, while completing his college education, Mr. Shillito began his business career as general manager of the Harris-Lincoln Supply Company in Dayton, Ohio. This company was primarily concerned with sale and installation of welding equipment. From 1949 to 1954. Mr. Shillito was Section Chief and Contracting Officer of the Procurement Division, USAF Headquarters, Air Materiel Command, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. He also was Chairman of the Fighter Fire Control Systems Planning Group. In this capacity he was concerned with acquisition of electronic fire control systems for U.S. Air Force fighter aircraft.

In 1954, Mr. Shillito became Director of Materiel at the Hughes Aircraft Company, Culver City, Calif. In 1958, he completed the advanced management program at the University of California at Los Angeles, and the same year he became director of sales for Hughes Aircraft Company. In 1959, Mr. Shillito joined the Houston Fearless Company as executive vice president, and in 1960 he became president of the company. He remained in that capacity until 1962 when he assumed the position of president of the Logistics Management Institute, a private nonprofit, factfinding and research organization concerned with major defense logistics problems.

Mr. Shillito again came to the Department of Defense in 1968, being sworn in as Assistant Secretary of the Navy (Installations and Logistics) April 9, 1968, and served in that position until he became Assistant Secretary of Defense (Installations and Logistics). He was nominated to be Assistant Secretary of Defense by President Richard M. Nixon on January 23, 1969, was confirmed by the United States Senate on January 29, 1969, and took the oath of office on February 1, 1969.

Mr. Shillito's organization memberships include Armed Forces Management Association, Young Presidents' Organization, Society of Logistics Engineers (fellow), Alumni Associations of the University of Dayton and UCLA, Advisory Board of the National Contract Management Association (honorary life member), American Legion. Knights of Columbus, Burning Tree Club, Washington, D.C., and Moraine County Club, Dayton, Ohio.

Mr. Shillito was married to the former Eileen Elizabeth Cottman of Dayton Ohio, on December 2, 1942. They have five children-Barry, Jr., Elaine, Daniel, James and Colleen-and reside at 5004 Baltan Road Sumner, Md.

DEPUTY ASSISTANT SECRETARY FOR SUPPLY, MAINTENANCE AND SERVICES Mr. Paul H. Riley serves as Deputy Assistant Secretary for Supply. Maintenance and Services (OASD (I&L)). In this position he is responsible for the development and coordination of policy, plans and programs to improve logistics systems through effective materiel management, cataloging, distribution, warehousing, transportation, maintenance, utilization and disposal. This field of responsibility covers such programs as requirement computation for secondary items, preservation/packaging, traffic management, containerization, maintenance support planning and equipment readiness.

This Deputy ASD provides leadership and direction for the automation of logistics functions and for the development of programs governing management and utilization of DOD telecommunications resources. In this regard, this Office provides DOD representation to the Manager, National Communications System and represents the ASD (I&L) in Defense Communications Systems telecommunications-electronics matters. This Office is active in fostering standard systems and procedures for common logistics operations such as the Military Standard Requisition and Issue Procedures. This Office is responsible for encouraging inter-service agreements for supply support and services, as well as developing principles for single agency management of common supplies and services. This Office acts as the focal point for agreements with the General Services Administration on the use of the Federal Supply System.

Also within this Office, the DOD Food Service Program is managed to improve equipment, facilities, training, systems and procedures required for the most cost-effective feeding of U.S. forces.

In addition, this Office provides policy guidance for all petroleum activities within the Department of Defense. This Deputy ASD also serves as the Defense

BIOGRAPHICAL DATA-RICHARD T. MATHEWS

Richard T. Mathews was born in South Dakota in 1918, where he lived until 1936.

He is a graduate of Mankato Commercial College, Mankato, Minn. and the University of Maryland, with a degree in Military Science.

He entered the military service in 1940. During World War II, he served 31⁄2 years in the Pacific Theater of Operations as supply officer for the 27th Infantry Division. Before retiring in 1960, with over 20 years active military service, he held a variety of petroleum assignments at the army, theatre, and departmental level.

Since retirement he has worked in the Office of the Secretary of Defense. He has served in his current capacity as Special Assistant for Petroleum, Office of the Assistant Secretary of Defense (Installations and Logistics) for the past 21⁄2 years.

Mr. EDMONDSON. The committee stands in recess until 9:45 in the morning.

(Whereupon, at 5 p.m., a recess was taken until 9:45 a.m., March 10,

1970.)

OIL IMPORT CONTROLS

TUESDAY, MARCH 10, 1970

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,

SUBCOMMITTEE ON MINES AND MINING OF THE

COMMITTEE ON INTERIOR AND INSULAR AFFAIRS,

Washington, D.C. The subcommittee met, pursuant to call, at 10 a.m., in room 1324, Longworth House Office Building, the Honorable Ed Edmondson (chairman of the subcommittee), presiding.

Mr. EDMONDSON. The subcommittee will come to order.

Today begins our second day of hearings on oil import controls. We have two witnesses scheduled for today, the Deputy Assistant Secretary for Resources in the Department of Commerce, the Honorable Stanley Nehmer, and the Assistant Secretary for Mineral Resources of the Department of the Interior, the Honorable Hollis M. Dole. It is our hope we can hear both of them this morning. We are going to make a real effort to do it.

Our first witness will be Secretary Nehmer.

STATEMENT OF HON. STANLEY NEHMER, DEPUTY ASSISTANT SECRETARY FOR RESOURCES, DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE; ACCOMPANIED BY WINGFIELD CHAMBERLAIN, DIRECTOR, PETROLEUM AND COAL DIVISION; AND CHARLES HERMAN, DEPUTY DIRECTOR, PETROLEUM AND COAL DIVISION

Mr. EDMONDSON. Secretary Nehmer, would you identify those of your staff who are here with you this morning and also supply for us, if you would, biographical sketches not only for yourself but also for the people who participate with you.

Without objection, those sketches will be made a part of the record following the testimony.

Secretary NEHMER. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

I am Stanley Nehmer, Deputy Assistant Secretary for Resources. I am accompanied by Wingfield Chamberlain, who is the director of the Petroleum and Coal Division of the Department of Commerce, and Charles Herman, who is the deputy director of the Petroleum and Coal Division.

Mr. Chairman and members of the committee, I am pleased to have the opportunity to appear before you this morning as you consider various aspects of the question of oil import controls.

As you know, this subject has recently been explored in a most thorough fashion by a Cabinet task force appointed by President