Methodist church--no, lawyers, that isn't a reflection. But no man can get in in less than six months, and they are ready to get out in three months. Again, there are others it takes ten, twelve, fourteen months, and two years, and then when they have got there, they wish that they hadn't got there. Now, there are a good many men in the profession of which this can be said. And hence I don't think it is a question of time: it is a question of diligence more than anything else. It is a question of opportunity, to some extent, for we are all creatures of circumstances to some extent, you know. One young man has learned more in two years or six months, and is better fit to go to the Bar and take care of a client's case than others would be in six years. I know of some who have been at the Bar for twenty years, and the Bar has been very unfortunate that they ever got there at all. Not that they have done any harm: they are not able to comprehend legal principles. They have held their position--that is, they have held their own. Hence, my own proposition is, that it is not so much the time as it is the knowledge. I am rather inclined to think, if you fix the prerequisite education or knowledge before commencing the study of law, and then leave it two years, you have done about right.

MAJ. KING: I hope this Association will not adopt that substitute. It is clearly a make-shift. It does not tend to reach or cure the evil that the report of the committee is looking after, if it be true, as the report states, that a large number of persons entering the Bar or admitted to practice have an insufficient literary education. And that I know to be a fact. Probably every practicing lawyer knows it. What is the remedy for it? Whoever heard of this Association, if it proceeded to remedy or recommend any improvement or reform in that direction, not undertaking to strike at the root of the evil? To take out of the statute the word "two" and substitute in its place "three" amounts to absolutely nothing, sir. The idea, and the central idea, of the report of this committee, is, that before a student shall enter upon the study of the law, there shall be some judicial examination, some certificate as to his qualification and fitness to enter upon the road that shall lead to the practice of the law. And I say that that idea ought not to be abandoned by this Association. Better abandon the whole subject, or rather re-refer it to the committee to report at a future meeting, than to simply slough it over by saying that the student shall study three years instead of two.

The idea of this report, I say, is centered around the fact of making this examination in addition to that of the Supreme Court. It fixes the time and place when this young man commences the study of the law in an office. So that there can be no misunderstanding as to the time he has to study or be engaged in the study, either in an office or in a law school—

MR. CUSHING: I rise to a point of order. The point Judge King is speaking on is upon changes not touched by the substitute, or the part of the report which the substitute is to take the place of.

THE PRESIDENT: The whole subject is before the convention. MAJ. KING: The stenographer's notes will show that the substitute is for the whole report.

JUDGE MOORE: It appears to me that we have a very important matter under consideration. Neither students nor the Bar will suffer very much if this goes over for another year. Many of the members have already left, and many desire to leave on the boat at 11:45. I would move, if it would be in order, not to deprive Judge King of his speech at all, that this whole matter be postponed until the next meeting of the Association, and made a special order for the second day, and recommitted to the select committee.

The motion prevailed.

MR. VAN DEMAN: I would like to submit another name for membership in the Association-Mr. Paul Jones, of Columbus.

JUDGE PIKE: He has been admitted.

MR. PRATT: I have a communication addressed to the Committee on Judicial Administration and Legal Reform, proposing an amendment to the laws in reference to the recording and transfer of mortgages. I will ask that it be referred to that committee.

THE PRESIDENT: It will be so referred, unless there is objection. JUDGE BENTLEY, of Bryan: I wish to call the attention of the Association to a matter. I understand from the report of our Treasurer that there is comparatively quite a large amount of money in the treasury of this Association-a large part of that, I understand, collected by the assiduous attention of the Treasurer through several years to the collection of dues of non-attendant members; and by his attention in this regard he has not only collected a large sum, but has accomplished still greater good, perhaps, to this Association, by preserving to it a larger membership than it would otherwise have. We are not to pay the Treasurer

for the duties thus performed in the past, but I think we can show our appreciation of those services; and as a testimonial of our appreciation and recognition of his services in the past in this regard, I move that the Treasurer be allowed to retain for himself, out of moneys in his hands, $50. He was only yesterday authorized to employ an assistant at an expense of $75, but that is not for himself. This is as a recognition by the Society of his valuable services. The motion unanimously prevailed.

JUDGE PIKE: This subject of past dues is a matter to which my attention has been called, and I will very briefly state the situation, so as to enable a motion to be made: there are many delinquent members who are still willing to come in, but will not do it so long as the amount of their dues is so large. We know how unwilling men are to pay for dead horses. I have always been willing to have members rather than delinquents. I would ask that somebody make a motion that the Treasurer be authorized

MR. G. R. YOUNG, Dayton: At a meeting of the Committee on Membership this morning, the matter of changing the constitution relating to membership dues came up for consideration, and the ideas which the gentleman advances were urged upon us, as bearing upon the present right to relieve members of their dues. The present section of the constitution relative to dues reads as follows: [Reads that part of Article 14 of the constitution headed "Dues."] I would offer an amendment to that section, which will then consist of the section as it stands, with this additional clause: "Provided, however, that in case such back dues amount to more than five dollars, such member may, upon recommendation of the Committee on Admissions and Elections, be reinstated on payment of the sum of five dollars."

The amendment, having received the approval of the Executive Committee, was adopted.

THE PRESIDENT: I will announce the following appointments: Delegates to the American Bar Association - Isaiah Pillars, Charles H. Grosvenor, Elam Fisher.

Committee on Railroads-R. D. Marshall, J. T. Brooks, Samuel E. Williamson.

On motion of Judge Moore, of Ottawa, the Executive Committee was requested to provide a banquet as part of the entertainment for the next annual convention of the Association.

Gen. Jones, from the Executive Committee, announced that the next meeting of the Association would be held at the Hotel Victory, Put-in-Bay, on the third Wednesday in July, 1893.

MR. TALCOTT: I would move that the hearty thanks of this Association be tendered to the President and other officers of the Association for their services, so eminently rendered, at this meeting.

The motion was put by Mr. Talcott and unanimously carried. On motion of Judge Moore, the Association adjourned sine die.