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SENATE SELECT COMMITTEE ON PRESIDENTIAL

CAMPAIGN ACTIVITIES

(Established by S. Res. 60, 93d Congress, 1st Session)

SAM J. ERVIN, JR., North Carolina, Chairman
HOWARD H. BAKER, JR., Tennessee, Vice Chairman

HERMAN E. TALMADGE, Georgia
DANIEL K. INOUYE, Hawaii
JOSEPH M. MONTOYA, New Mexico

EDWARD J. GURNEY, Florida
LOWELL P. WEICKER, JR., Connecticut

SAMUEL DASH, Chief Counsel and Staff Director
FRED D. THOMPSON, Minority Counsel
RUFUS L. EDMISTEN, Deputy Chief Counsel

ARTHUR J. MILLER, Chief Consultant
DAVID M. DORSEN, Assistant Chief Counsel
TERRY F. LENZNER, Assistant Chief Counsel
JAMES HAMILTON, Assistant Chief Counsel
CARMINE S. BELLINO, Chief Investigator
WAYNE H. BISHOP, Chief Field Investigator
EUGENE BOYCE, Hearings Record Counsel
R. PHILLIP HAIRE, Assistant Counsel
MARC LACKRITZ, Assistant Counsel
WILLIAM T. MAYTON, Assistant Counsel
RONALD D. ROTUNDA, Assistant Counsel
DONALD G. SANDERS, Deputy Minority Counsel
HOWARD S. LIEBENGOOD, Assistant Minority Counsel
H. WILLIAM SHURE, Assistant Minority Counsel
ROBERT SILVERSTEIN, Assistant Minority Counsel
LAURA MATZ, Administrative Assistant
CAROLYN ANDRADE, Office Manager
JOAN C. COLE, Secretary to the Minority

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Ulasewicz, Anthony, retired New York City Police Department detective,
accompanied by John Joseph Sutter, counsel..

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Weicker, Hon. Lowell P., Jr.

Ulasewicz: 2266,
2270-2276. LaRue: 2333-2338. Mardian: 2403-2410, 2419-2429,
2434, 2435. Strachan: 2481-2485, 2504-2506. Ehrlichman: 2625-
2630.

Dash, Samuel, chief counsel and staff director.

Strachan: 2445-2466. Ehrlichman: 2522-2554.
Thompson, Fred D., minority counsel

LaRue: 2277-2301.

La Rue: 2301–2306.

EXHIBITS SUBMITTED FOR THE RECORD

PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN ACTIVITIES OF 1972
PHASE I: WATERGATE INVESTIGATION

WEDNESDAY, JULY 18, 1973

U.S. SENATE,

SELECT COMMITTEE ON

PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN ACTIVITIES,

Washington, D.C.

The Select Committee met, pursuant to recess, at 10:05 a.m., in room 318, Russell Senate Office Building, Senator Sam J. Ervin, Jr. (chairman), presiding.

Present: Senators Ervin, Talmadge, Inouye, Montoya, Baker, Gurney, and Weicker.

Also present: Samuel Dash, chief counsel and staff director; Fred D. Thompson, minority counsel; Rufus L. Edmisten, deputy chief counsel; Arthur S. Miller, chief consultant; Jed Johnson, consultant; David M. Dorsen, James Hamilton, and Terry F. Lenzner, assistant chief counsels; R. Phillip Haire, Marc Lackritz, William T. Mayton, Ronald D. Rotunda, and Barry Schochet, assistant majority counsels; Eugene Boyce, hearings record counsel; Donald G. Sanders, deputy minority counsel; Howard S. Liebengood, H. William Shure, and Robert Silverstein, assistant minority counsels; Pauline O. Dement, research assistant; Eiler Ravnholt, office of Senator Inouye; Robert Baca, office of Senator Montoya; Ron McMahan, assistant to Senator Baker; A. Searle Field, assistant to Senator Weicker; Ray St. Armand. assistant publications clerk.

Senator ERVIN. The committee will come to order. Counsel will call the first witness.

Mr. DASH. Mr. Tony Ulasewicz.

Senator ERVIN. You were sworn in and you took the oath of a witness when you were here before the committee earlier, and this same oath still covers your testimony.

TESTIMONY OF ANTHONY T. ULASEWICZ, ACCOMPANIED BY JOHN JOSEPH SUTTER, COUNSEL

Mr. ULASEWICZ. Yes, sir.

Mr. DASH. Mr. Chairman, Mr. Terry Lenzner, assistant chief counsel, will question the witness.

Mr. LENZNER. Mr. Ulasewicz, I see you have counsel today. Would he identify himself.

Mr. SUTTER. John Joseph Sutter, Mineola, N.Y.

Mr. LENZNER. I understand you have a prestatement you would like to make, Mr. Sutter.

Mr. SUTTER. I do. Mr. Chairman, I am sure much to the relief of the committee Mr. Ulasewicz does not have a prepared statement he desires to read. He is here merely for the purposes of answering questions from the committee and I should like the record to indicate that he appears pursuant to a subpena issued by the committee dated April 30, 1973, and served upon him on or about May 8, 1973. Thank you, sir. Mr. LENZNER. Thank you, Mr. Sutter.

Mr. Ulasewicz, you testified here about your relationships with Mr. Caulfield in making contact with Mr. McCord. I just want to go back and ask you, were you contacted originally by Mr. Caulfield in February of 1969 with reference to doing some investigative work? Mr. ULASEWICZ. Yes, I was.

Mr. LENZNER. I understand the committee is not going to inquire into that area in any detail at all today but I do want to ask just two other background questions: First, were you also interviewed by Mr. John Ehrlichman in May of 1969 at the VIP lounge at LaGuardia Airport?

Mr. ULASEWICZ. That is correct.

Mr. LENZNER. And in June of 1969 did you meet Mr. Herbert Kalmbach here in the District of Columbia?

Mr. ULASEWICZ. That is correct.

Mr. LENZNER. Now, on or about June 28, 1972, did you receive a call from that same Mr. Kalmbach?

Mr. ULASEWICZ. Yes, I believe it was on the 29th of June.

Mr. LENZNER. And could you tell us what he said to you and what you said to him?

Mr. ULASEWICZ. Mr. Kalmbach asked me to come down to Washington the next afternoon, that he wanted to speak to me regarding an assignment.

Mr. LENZNER. And did you agree to do that?

Mr. ULASEWICZ. Yes, I did.

Mr. LENZNER. Did you see him the next day?

Mr. ULASEWICZ. I did.

Mr. LENZNER. Where was that, sir?

Mr. ULASEWICZ. It was in the Statler-Hilton Hotel in his room. Mr. LENZNER. Can you tell us what he said to you at that time and what you said to him?

Mr. ULASEWICZ. Mr. Kalmbach advised me that he had a very important assignment, and he went at least three times over the statement, saying that it was a situation that developed that he was asked to do something and needed my help in doing it. He said that it was legal, that it was to provide funds for persons in difficulty for payment of their counsels, and for payment to assist their families during some troublesome period. He repeated the statement several times. He was very ill at ease, very nervous and we got to the point where I said, "Well, Mr. Kalmbach just what is this now" and he says, "I have guessed it, it's the Watergate situation."

Mr. LENZNER. Mr. Ulasewicz, let me just interrupt-would you put the microphone more directly in front of you please, thank you.

Mr. ULASEWICZ. And he said, "It's the Watergate situation, I guess you have guessed that," and I said "Yes, sir." and he said "Well, again, let me assure you I would not in any way or fashion ask anyone to do anything that I would not engage my own services in. It is an assignment for me and I am asking you to do this. It will necessitate confi

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