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Ainendments to the Constitution.
[JUNE 1, 1790.
The first clause proposed that the Secretary Mr. VINING read a clause, which he proposed and Comptroller of the Treasury shound be as- to offer as a substitute for that in the bill; the sociated with the three Commissioners already object of which was to bring this business into appointed. This was objected to by Mr. Gerry; the Treasury Department, under the superinhe observed that if the appointment of the addi-tendence of the Secretary of the Treasury and tional Commissioners was vested in the Su- the Secretary of State. preme Executive, agreeably to the Constitution, This idea received the approbation of Mr. there can be no doubt that the appointments Madison. He stated the different principles would be made fronı such different parts of the from those which under the Confederation diUnion as would give universal satisfaction. rected the public establishments, which ought Upon the plan of the bill two of the Commis- to influence the Government under the present sioners will be from South Carolina; Mr. Kean Constitution. and the Comptroller, from an extreme part of Mr. GERRY objected to the proposed substithe Union. This, he presumed, would not tute. He considered it as a very extraordinary give satisfaction; besides, he said, it was invad- innovation. He argued against it principally on ing the prerogative of the President. He moved the ground of its unconstitutionality, as interfertherefore that the words“ Secretary and Comp-ing with the right of the President and Senate troller of the Treasury" should be struck out, in inaking the appointments. He replied to the and the words - two Čommissioners” inserted? answer which had been given to his objection,
Mr. SEDGWICK rose to inquire why there from there being more than one Commissioner should be an addition to the Commissioners? He from a particular State; he observed the anobserved that increasing the men who are ap- swer proved too much; he had as high an opinpointed to transact any business is generally ion of the honor and abilities of the gentleman found to protract the completion of such busi- alluded to as any member of the committee, and ness; he had very little hope that the accounts, he had no doubt that competent characters to in the way they are now in, would ever be sa form the whole board might be selected from tisfactorily settled; he moved to strike out the many particular parts of the United States; but whole clause.
would any gentleman, said he, think such a Mr. WILLIAMSON made some observations in measure politic or eligible? The appointments support of the clause.
made by the President of the United States Mr. FITZSIMONS, one of the committee, stat- were upon a different principle; he controverted the reasons which induced them to make the ed the idea of vesting such extensive powers association. He observed that the objections as the substitute offered by Mr. VINING prowhich had been now made occurred to the com- posed, and with respect to appointments, he mittee. With respect to the objection from the observed, that of all the branches of the LegisComptroller's being from South Carolina, that lature, the House was perhaps the least qualiwas obviated by its being known that the ac- fied to make them. counts of that State were fully and very accu- Mr. VINING supported his proposition; he rately made out by the late Commissioner from observed that his motion was not a greater inthat State, and therefore no undue influence novation than that proposed by the bill; he was to be apprehended on that account; that stated the incompetency of the present system; from the Comptroller's appointment as an offi- he thought the House had been too much incer of the United States, and not of any parti- fuenced by the resolutions and regulations of cular State, and his being connected with the the old Congress; he wished that principles Treasury Department, there appeared to be and not precedents should influence the decia propriety in associating him with the Com- sions of Congress in future. With respect to missioners. An increase in the number of the the present Commissioners he had as high an Commissioners had been found on experience opinion of the abilities of the gentlemen as any to be absolutely necessary for a variety of rea- man, and he doubted not that they would be sons which he stated.
re-appointed; he expatiated on the necessity of Mr. SHERMAN expressed his approbation of a new arrangement in this business, and enforthe clause in the bill. He thought the addition ced the propriety of appointing characters emiproposed would be a measure of utility, that it nent in the public estimation, whose decisions was proper in itself; and with respect to the would be the result of a comprehensive and Comptroller, he was so well acquainted with competent view of the subject. him, that he had the fullest confidence in his Mr. GERRY's idea was finally adopted by the abilities and integrity. The proposition is eli- House, and the appointments of additional gible in another view, as it will be deriving commissioners devolved on the President of great advantage from the abilities of the gentle- the United States. man without any additional expense.
The committee rose and reported progress. Mr. LAWRENCE opposed the clause on similar principles with those offered by Mr. GERRY;
AMENDMENTS TO THE CONSTITUTION. and with respect to increasing the weight of A message was received from the President public business in the hands of those officers, of the United States, inforr ng the House, that without an allowance for it, he could not see he had received official information of the ratifieither the justice or propriety of it.
cation and adoption of the Constitution of the JUNE 3, 1790.]
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United States, by the State of Rhode Island of the committee on the petition of John F. and Providence Plantations, on which event he Amelung. The resolution in favor of the peticongratulated the House. A letter from the tioner by the committee, was as follows: "That President of the Convention to the President the Secretary of the Treasury of the United of the United States accompanied the message, States be authorized to make a loan not exceedwhich was read.
ing $3,000 to the said John F. Amelung, he give RHODE ISLAND.
ing satisfactory security for the reimbursement Mr. Smith, of South Carolina, then moved of the same within years. The question that the Committee of the whole should be dis- was on agreeing to this resolution. charged from considering the bill to prevent a Mr. CARROLL gave a history of the rise and commercial intercourse with the State of Rhode progress of this gentleman's exertions in estaIsland, &c., which was immediately put and blishing an American Glass Manufactory; it carried in the affirmative,
commenced in 1775. He brought into the counOn motion of Mr. Sedgwick, a committee try upwards of 200 persons, and has expended was appointed to report a bill or bills for giving in this undertaking £20,000. Owing to a varieffect to the laws of the United States, in re-ety of accidents, and particularly the extraorspect to the State of Rhode Island and Provi- dinary rise in the price of grain, he now finds dence Plantations.
himself greatly embarrassed in prosecuting the DEATH OF THEODORIC BLAND. business; but if he can be so far patronized by Information having been received of the death Government as to be favored with a loan of 3 of the Honorable TheodoRIC BLand, one of the or 4,000 pounds, it would afford him such remembers of the House-Mr. Jackson moved lief as would enable him to surmount every that a committee should be appointed to super- difficulty. intend his funeral.
Mr. Smith, of South Carolina, and Mr. SherThis business was specially referred to the MAN, objected to the report of the committee. delegation from the State of Virginia.
They doubted the constitutionality of the powMr. GERRY's motion for printing the treaties er of Congress to loan the money of their conbetween the United States and foreign nations, stituents; they objected to it on account of the and annexing them to the code of laws, was precedent it would establish, and supposed that taken up and passed.
the encouragement and assistance would be ap
plied for with more propriety to the State GoWEDNESDAY, June 2.
vernment. PUBLIC DEBTS.
Mr. CARROLL made some observations in reThe engrossed bill making provision for the ply to these remarks. payment of the debts of the United States, was Mr. Vining said, he had no idea of losing a read the third time and passed.
good thing lest a precedent should be establishMr. CARROLL, from the committee to whom ed, which no future circumstances might prowas referred the petition of John F. Amelung, bably call into use. He then adverted to the made a report.
extraordinary and peculiar circumstances of DEBTS OF THE STATES.
this gentleman, and on general national princiThe House again resolved itself into a Com- ples, contended that it was conformable to the mittee on the bill for settlement of the accounts dictates of the soundest policy to encourage and between the United States and individual States, assist the undertaking. He said, that the ConMr. Seney in the chair. The committee not stitution does not prohibit the Government from having got through the bill, rose and reported loaning money, it is a mere act of legislation, progress.
and Congress may do it, or let it alone. ConOn motion of Mr. GERRY,
gress are vested with a general power to en. Resolved unanimously, That the members of this courage the arts and manufactures of the UniHouse, from a sincere desire of showing every mark ted States; this is one mode of affording this of respect due to the memory of TheodonIC BLAND, encouragement. He enlarged on the importance deceased, late a member thereof, will go in mourn of manufactures, and that of making glass in ing for him one month, by the usual mode of wearing particular, by which, if duly encouraged, ima crape round the left arm.
inense sums of money might be prevented from Mr. Sedgwick, from the committee appoint- being sent out of the country. ed on the subject, presented a bill for giving ef- Mr. Boudinot, who was one of the commitfect to the laws of the United States within the tee which brought in the report, gave an acState of Rhode Island and Providence Planta- count of the manufactory, and said he had seen tions, which was twice read and committed.
of the glass made in it, which was superior to
any ever before produced in America. He conTHURSDAY, June 3.
tended, that Congress had a right, by the ConThe Senate informed the House, that they stitution, to loan the money; he cited several have agreed to the resolution for the publication instances in point; which, said he, are unconof Treaties made under the authority of the stitutional acts if this proposition is. He expaUnited States.
tiated on the merits of the petitioner, in emGLASS MANUFACTURES.
barking such large property in prosecuting a The House proceeded to consider the report business of so general utility, and pointed out
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United States and Individual States.
[June 4, 1790.
the consequences which would result from a Mr. Gerry, after a variety of other observafailure of this application, which would be great- tions, said, the agricultural and commercial inly injurious to the petitioner and the public. terests of the United States had found warm
Mr. SHERMAN read that part of the Constitu- advocates in the House; manufactures had tion which he conceived was contrary to the found some friends, but, he believed, not to so proposition in the report.
great a degree as the other two. He wished Mr. Sedgwick said, he had no doubt of the that some mode could be devised to unite in constitutionality of the measure in granting the measures to promote the interests of all three. money, still he doubted the eligibility of any He concluded, by saying that as there appeared partial application of the public patronage and to be a variety of sentiments on the subject, he encouragement. He mentioned the various wished the House should go into a Committee manufacturing enterprises on foot through the of the whole on the business. United States; many of these are languishing, Mr. Stone made some observations in favor said he, for want of that encouragement which of the report. is now solicited in this particular instance. He Mr. SMITH, of South Carolina, replied to the had no doubt of the merits of the petitioner; and several speakers in favor of the report. Herealthough he was in favor of giving all due en probated the resolution as unconstitutional, as couragement to industrious foreigners, yet he opening a door to innumerable applications; he doubted the propriety of doing this in a partial contended that there was no probability of efmanner, and in preference to the natives of this fectual and certain aid to the manufacture, as country; if the subject should be brought for- it is acknowledged that £20,000 have been emward on general principles, said he, it shall re- ployed in the undertaking, and yet it is in danceive my hearty support, so far as the circum- ger of failing. He then read an advertisement stances of the country will admit.
of Mr. Amelung, in which he says he is still Mr. Ames entered into a particular discussion able to furnish the public with glass. He obof the subject of manufactures, and dilated on served, that from all circumstances he was led their utility and importance in the United States. to conclude that if the money was once granted, He pointed out the difficulties which attended it would never be again realized by the Governsetting them up in this country, from the com- ment, as in case of accidents, which are very petition they have to contend with of foreign probable in that business, Congress will be aparticles. He then stated the principles on which plied to, on account of misfortunes, to remit their public patronage ought to be extended to un- claim. The report was negatived. dertakings in this line; his idea was, that such UNITED STATES AND INDIVIDUAL STATES. as are of general advantage to the public should The House again went into a Committee on be so far encouraged as to place the manufac- the bill to provide for the settlement of the actures upon terms of equality with foreign man-counts between the United States and individufactures of a similar nature; he did not conual States, Mr. Seney in the chair. Sundry ceive the present circumstances of the United amendments were agreed to, and several clauStates would justify or enable them to under ses expunged. The committee rose and retake to afford this encouragement generally; but ported progress. he supposed that there was a propriety in taking up particular branches, and determining
FRIDAY, June 4. what particular aid they shall receive.
RHODE ISLAND. Mr. Jackson was opposed to the report. He was averse to any partial encouragement; par laws of the United States within the State of
The engrossed bill for giving effect to the ticularly of foreigners in preference to our own Rhode Island and Providence Plantations, was citizens, whose circumstances are in many re- read the third time and passed. spects truly deplorable from the failure of manufactures, which had long been established in ed for the purpose, presented a bill for giving
Mr. SEDGWICK, from the committee appointthe country. He observed that our creditors effect to an act to establish the Judicial Courts had a prior claim on the revenue, and that the of the United States within the State of Rhode measure was precipitate. Gentlemen are not Island and Providence Plantations, which was content, said he, with placing the American twice read and committed. tonnage in a hot-bed, but they are now for placing manufactures also in one. He supposed
U. STATES AND INDIVIDUAL STATES. the State of Maryland would derive great ad- The House again went into a Committee on vantage from this undertaking, and that they the bill to provide for the settlement of the acwould encourage the petitioner without doubt; counts between the United States and the indihe wished the gentleman success, but was for vidual States, Mr. Seney in the chair. The referring him to the State Legislature.
committee had nearly finished their discussion, Mr. Seney supported the report of the com- when they rose and reported progress. mittee, and urged the propriety of the applica- Mr. Madison moved that the Coinmittee of tion to the General Government, as the under the whole be discharged from the further contaking is of general utility, and such extraordi- sideration of this bill; which motion being carnary exertions merited the notice, patronage, ried, this bill will hereafter be taken up in the and assistance of the United States at large. House.
JUNE 10, 1790.)
Seat of Government.
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MONDAY, June 7.
WEDNESDAY, June 9.
U. STATES AND INDIVIDUAL STATES. Mr. LIVERMORE, from the Committee to The engrossed bill to provide for the settlewhom was recommitted the bill for regulating ment of the accounts between the United States the Post-office of the United States, presented and the individual States was read the third an amendatory bill to establish the post-office time, and recommitted to a Select Committee. and post-roads within the United States; which A message from the Senate informed the was twice read and committed.
House that they have passed the bill giving ef
fect to the several acts therein mentioned to the CENSUS ACT EXTENDED TO RHODE ISLAND. State of Rhode Island and Providence Planta
Mr. SEDGWICK, from the Committee appoint- tions, with an amendment; which, being coned for the purpose, presented a bill for giving sidered, was agreed to by this House. effect to an act providing for the enumera
SEAT OF GOVERNMENT. tion of the inhabitants of the United States, in Mr. GERRY gave notice that he should torespect to the State of Rhode Island and Provi, morrow bring forward a resolution to fix the perdence Plantations; which was read twice and manent residence of Congress somewhere on committed.
the eastern banks of the Delaware. U. STATES AND INDIVIDUAL STATES.
DUTY ON SPIRITS. The House proceeded to the consideration of In Committee of the whole on the bill for rethe report of the Committee of the whole on pealing, after the last day of — next, the duthe bill to provide for the settlement of the ac- ties heretofore laid on distilled spirits, &c. counts between the United States and the indi- Mr. GOODHUE moved to strike out the twelfth vidual States, and agreed to the same. section which provides for an excise on spirits
Several amendments were then proposed to distilled in the United States. This motion the bill, some of which were agreed to; and on occasioned considerable debate. The excise motion of Mr. Scott, a clause was added to was opposed, as interfering with those funds of increase the salaries of the clerks of the Com- the particular States on which they depend for missioners from four hundred dollars per an- paying the interest of their State debts, which num to five hundred, the salaries given in all would be a most glaring act of injustice, unless the other offices.
those debts are assumed by the United States; Mr. Madison then moved for another amend others objected to the principle of excises altoment, the consideration of which was postponed gether. "The motion was finally negatived. till to-morrow.
THURSDAY, June 10.
On motion, the following resolution was pre
sented for consideration: RHODE ISLAND.
SEAT OF GOVERNMENT. The engrossed bill for giving effect to the act
Resolved, That when the two Houses shall adjourn to establish the Judicial Courts of the United to close the present session, the President of the States within the State of Rhode Island and Senate and Speaker of the House of Representatives Providence Plantations, was read the third time do adjourn their respective Houses, to meet and hold and passed.
their next session in the city of Philadelphia. On motion of Mr. BOUDINOT, a Committee
The Yeas and Nays being called for on the was appointed to inquire and report to the question of considering the resolution, they House the business necessary to be transacted were taken as follows: previous to an adjournment.
Yeas.-Messrs. Ashe, Baldwin, Brown, Cadwala. U. STATES AND INDIVIDUAL STATES.
der, Carroll, Clymer, Coles, Contee, Fitzsimons,
Gale, Gilman, Griffin, Hartley, Heister, Loe, Madi. The bill providing for the settlement of ac- son, Matthews, Moore, P. Muhlenberg, Page, Par. counts between the United States and indivi-ker, Scott, Seney, Sinnickson, Smith, of Maryland, dual States, was taken into consideration. Se- Steele, Stone, Sumter, Vining, White, Williamson, veral amendments were proposed and debated: Wynkoop:-32. some of them were agreed to, and others reject- Nars.--Messrs. Ames, Benson, Bloodworth, Bou. ed. The bill being finished, it was ordered to dinot, Burke, Floyd, Foster, Gerry, Goodhue, Grout, be engrossed for a third reading.
Hathorn, Huger, Huntington, Jackson, Lawrence, DUTIES ON SPIRITS.
Leonard, Livermore, Partridge, Van Rensselaer,
Schureman, Sedgwick, Sherman, Sylvester, Smith, The House resolved itself into a Committee of South Carolina, Sturges, Thatcher, Trumbull, of the whole on the bill for repealing, after the Tucker, Wadsworth.--29. last day of the duties heretofore laid on The motion being before the House for a de. distilled spirits of foreign manufacture, and lay- cision, a motion was made that the same should ing others in their stead, Mr. Boudinot in the be committed to a Committee of the whole, and chair. The bill being read, some pr was that the proposition moved yesterılay by Mr. made in the discussion; the committee then rose, Gerry, should, at the same time, be referred and the House adjourned.
to the Committee, with instructions that they H. of R.)
(June 11, 1790.
examine into the question relative to a place for ed, irritated, and wasting time in discussing a fixing the permanent seat of Government. question of, confessedly, a local nature; that
This motion for commitment also gave rise though the resolution had been once carried by to considerable debate about the usual time of a large majority in the House, it was negatived adjournment.
in the Senate; and there was no prospect of a A motion was made to adjourn; on this mo- different decision; that if Philadelphia was tion the House divided-ayes 29, noes 28. The agreed upon as the place to which Congress SPEAKER declared himself in favor of the mi- should adjourn, it must appear from a most cornority. The House was then equally divided, sory view of the state of representation, that it and the motion in consequence lost.
would be extremely difficult ever to effect a reThe question being, at length put for com-moval to a more central situation, and no one mitment, it was negatived-yeas 28, nays 33.
pretended that it was the most eligible place for Yeas.—Messrs. Ames, Benson, Boudinot, Burke, that in order to remove all cause of further un
a permanent residence. It was further said, Floyd, Foster, Gerry, Goodhue, Grout, Hathorn, easiness on this subject, it was become necesHuger, Huntington, Lawrence, L.eonard, Livermore, Partridge, Van Rensselaer, Schureman, Sedgwick, sary to determine the permanent seat of GovSherman, Sylvester, Smith, of Maryland, Smith, of ernment. On this last idea many observations South Carolina, Sturges, Thatcher, Trumbull, Tuck. were made, and the eligibility of the measure er, Wadsworth.--28.
urged with great zeal. The motion to take up Nays.—Messrs. Ashe, Baldwin, Brown, Blood- / Mr. Parker's resolution being carried, worth, Cadwalader, Carroll, Clymer, Coles, Contee,
Mr. SEDGWICK, after a number of observaFitzsimons, Gale, Gilman, Griffin, Hartley, Heister, tions, moved that the resolution now before the Jackson, Lee, Madison, Matthews, Moore, Muhlen-Housc should be referred to a Committee of berg, Page, Parker, Scott, Seney, Sinnickson, Steele, the whole, and that that Committee be instructStone, Sumter, Vining, White, Williamson, Wyn-ed to take into consideration the motion of Mr. koop.--33.
Gerry laid on the table yesterday, for fixing A motion was again made for an adjourn the permanent seat of Government on the banks ment; the House divided-ayes 30, nays 31.
of the Delaware. Mr. BloodWORTH then moved that Philadel
Mr. CARROLL observed, that when the subphia should be stryck out of the resolution, and ject was originally brought before the House, it Baltimore inserted.
was moved to take up the permanent residence; After some debate on this motion, another that inotion was then rejected; why, then, should motion was made to adjourn, and carried.
we waste time on a subject which has already This debate was supported by arguments and been determined? If gentlemen are sincere · observations similar to those stated in a former who profess to be concerned about the other paper; but greatly, enlarged on this occasion. public business, they certainly will not go into Those in favor of determining on the tempora - a Committee of the whole, as now proposed. ry residence, or an adjournment to Philadel- Mr. Ames rose and declared, that he, as well phia, urged its greater centrality than New as those with whom he acted, were sincere in York; the injustice done to the Southern States their professions when they wished to bring forin holding the sessions in so uncentral a situa- ward the permanent residence; he thought it of tion; the uneasiness of the people on this ac- the utmost importance that the subject should count; the present temper of the House; the receive a final determination. This motion, as tendency of the question to irritate and inflame; before stated, was negatived. the interruption of the public business, and the influence the subject might be supposed to have in determining great national questions; that
Friday, June 11. the determination of a very great majority of
DISTILLED SPIRITS. the House had been overruled in an unprece
On motion, that the House resolve itself into dented and extraordinary manner by the Sen- a Committee of the whole on the bill for repealate; the House ought in justice to themselves, ling, after the last day of -- next, the duties and to their constituents, who were greatly in heretofore laid upon distilled spirits imported terested in the issue of the question, to insist from abroad, and laying others in their 'stead, on their former vote, &c. From these consid- and also upon spirits distilled within the Unierations the advocates for Mr. Parker's mo. ted States, as well as to discourage the excestion urged an ultimate decision on the ques. sive use of these spirits and promote agriculion.
ture, as to provide for the support of the public In reply, it was observed, that the question credit, and for the common defence and welis of a mere local nature, which ought not to be fare. brought forward at the present moment, to in.
The Yeas and Nays being called for, were: terrupt the great and important national busi- YEAS.—Messrs. Ames, Boudinot, Benson, Burke, ness before the House; that the people were Foster, Floyd, Gerry, Goodhue, Hathorn, Huntinganxiously waiting for a completion of this busi, ton, Huger, Jackson, Lawrence, Leonard, Liverness; that they would view with concern and more, Rensselaer, Sedgwick, Sherman, Sturges, disgust the men whom they had appointed to Sylvester, Schureman, Smith, of Maryland, Smith, transact affairs of the greatest moment, agitat. I of s. C., Trumbull, Thatcher, Wadsworth.--26.