wherein Marr approached an employee on the P. T. division, P. R. R., and told him to drop his membership in the O. R. T.; failing to do so he would have to take the consequences.

A. D. Sheldon, 225 Ramsey, West Philadelphia, Pa., says he would not dare leave the O. R. T. D. A. & S., and join the O. R. T., as those not belonging to the O. R. T. D. A. & S. were persecuted so much that life became almost unbearable on the P T. at Seventeenth Street tower, and that O. R. T. members would be especially persecuted.

R. McNeal, leverman, 5719 Woodland Avenue, Philadelphia, Pa., says he is afraid to join the Order of Railroad Telegraphers on account of the influence of L. K. Marr, who is a member of the P. R. R.'s labor commission, and goes on to state his reason as follows: That at the time Mr. Marr became train master or general yard master for the P. R. R. in New York, Mr. Marr sent for him and asked him if he would accept a position on his division. McNeal said to Mr. Marr that he would be glad to accept a position on his division, and requested that a position be also given his son. All arrangements were made to this end, but the arrangements were never carried out, as he believes, that it was ascertained that he was not a member of the O. R. T. D. A. & S. at that time, further stating that it is generally understood on the P. T. division that men in the telegraph department could not secure employment under Mr. Marr unless they were members of the O. R. T. D. A. & S. Mr. McNeal exhibited fear of the consequences should he join the O. R. T. unless a majority of his coworkers should accompany him in such action.

Thomas J. Robinson, "relief," 949 Falon Street, Philadelphia, Pa., says he is afraid to leave the O. R. T. D. A. & S. and join the O. R. T. on account of L. K. Marr, train master, New York, being on the labor commission of the P. R. R. meeting each week with other P. R. R. officials in Broad Street station, implying that his reason for so believing is that Marr was the cause of the dual organization being organized.

E. E. Creely, jr., relief telegrapher, 2128 Orthodox Street, Frankford, Pa., says that he is afraid to leave the O. R. T. D. A. & S. and join the O. R. T. individually on account that the company might take advantage of the condition of his eyesight, thereby causing him to lose his position.

Charles I. Fisher, telegrapher, 1419 North Robinson Street, Philadelphia. Pa., says that he is afraid to leave the O. R. T. D. A & S. and join the O. R. T. on account of the attitude of the train dispatchers in "S" office and also the men in "JR" office, the latter the division superintendent's office. It is said that Train Dispatcher Howard Brown, of "S" office, is one of the men, and John Green, of "JR" office, another who most strongly urge the O. R. T. D. A. & S. proposition among the men, and that the men along the line fear the posi tion and influence of those two men should they antagonize the O. R. T. D. A. & S. or dual organization proposition by leaving the O. R. T. D. A. & S. or joining the O. R. T.

A number of these men state that they do not desire to insult L. K. Marr, who has befriended them, by leaving the O. R. T. D. A. & S. or joining the O. R. T.; also expressing their confidence in him as a man. Others express grave doubts as to Marr's sincerity in the past in relation to matters affecting regular organized labor.

This statement will be continued from time to time.
For your information,

DEAR SIR AND BROTHER: The two meetings at Reading Pa., August 19 were held according to program. There were but a half dozen at the morning meeting outside of members of the general committee, Wenrich, and myself. The meeting was informal, and the principal subject under discussion was the lack of attendance by the P. R. R. telegraphers, and according to the information gained it was decided that the attitude of Division Operator J. C. Moran toward

the men and the O. R. T. since the Phoenixville meeting on June 30, and also to the fact that too much time elapsed between meetings was responsible.

Brother H. F. Strunk, 316 Seventeen-and-a-half Street, Reading, Pa., stated that Mr. Moran approached him, asking if he belonged to the O. R. T. and went on to state that, of course, he could not discharge him directly because he belonged to the O. R. T., as there was a law prohibiting such procedure, but that almost any little thing might be found against him and his discharge ordered therefor; and while the discussion was going on Moran let it be known that he might at any time receive orders to proceed as above. It seems Mr. Moran canvassed his entire division for the purpose of intimidating the men, including members of the O. R. T., nonmembers, and members of the dual organization, and during each interview stated practically as above. To Brother O. R. Simmers, Phoenixville, Pa., who did not attend either meeting, it is said Mr. Moran stated as above and added that the objection to the O. R. T. on the Pennsylvania came from Mr. Atterbury. Others of the men have also stated that Mr. Moran's attitude and words suggested that he wished them to understand that he is simply following instructions.

At the night meeting, General Chairman Miller in the chair, there were 17 present all told, including 3 P. & R. men.

Train Dispatcher A. W. Haws, who is an ex-0. R. T., also ex-O. R. T. D. A. & S. member, and for one term a member of the board of trustees of the dual organization, and while a member of the board of trustees, according to his statements to General Chairman Miller and myself at Reading, came into possession of information which caused him to leave that organization, further stating that this was due to irregularities practiced by J. R. T. Auston.

Mr. Haws also states to General Chairman Miller and myself that regardless of the words spoken by Division Operator J. C. Moran in his address at our open meeting at Phoenixville, Pa., on June 30, 1913, since then Moran is approaching his men by informing them that the P. R. R. does not desire its telegraphers to hold membership in the O. R. T.; and while the law prohibits him from discharging them from the service because of their affiliation with the O. R. T., any little thing might be found against them and their discharge ordered on that account-words to that effect. Mr. Haws condemned the attitude and procedure of Mr. Moran in this matter, as above stated.

For your information.

Fraternally,

T. E. ELLIS.

AS TO THE P. R. R. PITTING ONE EMPLOYEE AGAINST ANOTHER FOR SECRET PURPOSES AND ITS PECULIAR WAY OF TREATING WITH THE DUAL ORGANIZATION.

PHILADELPHIA, PA., March 20, 1913. Mr. W. H. Boyer, 380 Second Avenue, Phoenixville, Pa., stated to me to-day in the presence of Paul A. Wenrich, at the Phoenix Hotel, Phoenixville, Pa., as follows:

That he was recently elected local chairman O. R. T. D. A. & S. Schuylkill Division, P. R. R., and that last Monday, March 17, 1913, he, with other members of the general committee of the O. R. T. D. A. & S., met by prearrangement at Broad Street, Philadelphia, Pa., Mr. Johnson, superintendent telegraph, P. R. R.; that the only other P. R. R. official there present was Mr. L. K. Marr. That it was made known to him by J. R. T. Auston, prior to above meeting, that Mr. Marr would be present.

That J. R. T. Auston knew exactly what was to be given above-named committee in way of concessions prior to the time the committee went to meet Mr. Johnson.

That he (Boyer) and the committee found the "readjustment" (concessions) made by the P. R. R. all ready for them in "blue print " when they got there.

That Mr. Johnson stated to the committee that the P. R. R. would never meet an O. R. T. committee, and that this is all there was said about the O. R. T. at the "conference."

That he (Boyer) was told to leave at Broad Street all that he had heard and seen there.

That it was stated, or that he was given to understand, that had the two Reading, Pa., O. R. T. meetings on March 13, 1913, been held two weeks earlier and the action of O. R. T. D. A. & S. men been noted the Schuylkill division P. R. R. would have gotten nothing in way of concessions.

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That he (Boyer) asked Mr. Johnson what the readjustment allowed by the company netted all the telegraphers employed by P. R. R. east of Pittsburg and Erie, Mr. Johnson said these papers do not show that." Boyer says that 29 positions on the Schuylkill division gains $1,012 annually, and are the only ones affected by the readjustment; that most of these are the higher paid positions, in consequence of which there is much dissatisfaction among the men already; that the men also as a rule believe the money handed out by the company to the dual organization is for anti O. R. T. action; that in his opinion there will not be more than a dozen O. R. T. D. A. & S. members left on the Schuylkill division in 60 days from now; that this "readjustment" is the one asked for in either 1910 or 1911. That there are three men who run the O. R. T. D. A. & S., and they are Messrs. Johnson, superintendent telegraph P. R. R., Mr. L. K. Marr, New York, and Mr. J. R. T. Auston, Philadelphia.

That after the "conference" Mr. Huffman, former local chairman O. R. T. D. A. & S., Schuylkill division P. R. R., took him (Boyer) to J. R. T. Auston's office, Filbert Street, Philadelphia, and there asked Auston questions along lines to draw answers from Auston in Boyer's presence that the O. R. T. D. A. & S. was not a company organization. That he (Boyer) is satisfied that reports preceded him to Philadelphia that he had been seen talking with representatives of the O. R. T.; this, I told him, was beyond doubt. He says that general chairman Giles of the O. R. T. D. A. & S. committee came all the way to Phoenixville to visit him yesterday, March 19. That he intends to remain with the O. R. T. D. A. & S. as local chairman a while yet to see what will happen; that at next meeting of D. A. S., at Reading, he will tell the members of just what occurred at Broad Street, as he agreed to do this when he was elected to the office of local chairman; that there will be no one else serve as local chairman; that if they oust him there will be none there.

Boyer stated, in a slow and deliberate manner, as follows during the interview: "If a fellow that is crooked will serve well as general chairman D. A. S. and is foxy he will be sure to get a fine job with the P. R. R.," and cited others Marr and Hartman, along with the declaration.

That the members of the O. R. T. D. A. & S. on the Schuylkill division P. R. R. began to get wise to the proposition latter part of last December, and they are convinced of the true situation.

This interview was prearranged by Wenrich and myself after he had a short talk with Boyer on Tuesday, when Boyer put a much different line of statement to Wenrich. I went over notes of the interview with Brother Wenrich to-day after the talk with Boyer, and he will write Brother Miller this evening of the interview, as per Miller's request. Therefore I am sending it only to you.

T. E. ELLIS.

AS TO RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE P. R. R. AND THE O. R. T. D. A. & S.

PHILADELPHIA, PA., February 21, 1913. Telegrapher J. P. Connell, Haddonfield, N. J., second trick at P. R. R. tower, said in part as follows to-day:

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That J. W. Kelley, telegrapher, has been employed on the Atlantic Division P. R. R. for the past three years or more; that he understands Kelley is a close friend of L. K. Marr, New York; that Kelley is a southerner, and it is thought he came from the B. & O. Ry. in Virginia, to the P. R. R. That last spring (1912) Kelley represented to him (Connell) that if himself and the other operator then employed at "H I" tower, Haddonfield, would join the O. R. T. D. A. & S. he would guarantee them at least a $5 per month increase in wages right away; that himself (Connell) and Telegrapher H. Panacoast joined with Kelley and paid him $1 each for membership, but as there was no increase in wages, as per Kelley's guarantee, both dropped out, refusing to pay any more money into the order. Kelley is an organizer for the O. R. T. D. A. & S. and works third trick "HI" tower, Haddonfield, N. J.

That during last summer (1912) Kelley was relieved from his duties as telegrapher for two or three weeks by Extra Telegrapher O. A. Coppage, and it was rumored that Kelley was down on the Baltimore Division, P. R. R., doing "gum-shoe" work among members of the Order of Railroad Telegraphers. Kelley himself told the men at Haddonfield that he had been on the Baltimore Division, but refrained to state what he was doing there. It was

also rumored that Kelley was on the P. R. R. pay roll at that time, but he does not know anything about the facts in the case; so states Connell.

That the above-named vacation was the only one from "HI" tower for Kelley so far as he remembers.

NOTE.-It will be remembered that Auston wanted Tatlow to go among a number of O. R. T. men on that division and Tatlow's refusal to do the dirty work is the cause of the split between Tatlow and Auston, as given by Tatlow. Boardman at Winslow states the same thing, as do others acquainted with the matter. Now we find a P. R. R. telegrapher was relieved from duty for the purpose. Dates have not been given me account nonmemory, but same will be furnished with other information on this subject in future reports.

T. E. ELLIS.

WINDSOR HOTEL, Philadelphia, December 15, 1912.

H. B. P.:

See Brother Wenrich's letter, inclosed, for files in this case.

Mr. T. E. ELLIS, Pittsburgh, Pa.

T. E. E., General Delivery, Philadelphia, Pa. THE GARDENIER, NEWARK, N. Y., December 6, 1912.

DEAR SIR AND BROTHER: On the 15th of October, 1912, Brother W. M. Chilson, of 74 Pleasant Street, Canandaigua, hired to P. R. R. on Elmira Division, under Mr. J. Shears, division operator, who asked him if he was a member of O. R. T., and when he was advised in affirmative, he (Mr. Shears) told Chilson he had better drop it as it was not recognized by the P. R. R.; that the O. R. T. D. A. & S. was the organization to get in, as they were doing things, etc.

I took Brother Chilson in O. R. T. at Towanda, Pa., in fore part of this year.

On either November 6 or November 21, 1912, the paymaster asked Brother L. M. Rumsey, How about the telegraphers strike? Whereupon Brother Rumsey said, "Don't know; no doubt we will hear more about it," whereupon the paymaster and clerk gave him a sniff and horse laugh. No doubt they are doing this all over the system. "73."

Yours, fraternally,

PAUL A. WEINRICH.

P. S.-Yesterday got promise of three delinquents to pay up and collected; got one promise to come in. Boys on Shine line clamoring for meetings at some convenient point; for instance, Canandaigua.

P. A. W.

AS TO P. R. R. FOSTERING DUAL ORGANIZATIONS.

Mr. H. B. PERHAM,

President, New York City.

PHILADELPHIA, PA., June 8, 1913.

DEAR SIR AND BROTHER: Telegrapher Weaver, P. R. R., Phillipsburg, N. J., recently stated to Brother S. G. Simanton, local chairman, Frenchtown, N. J., that: "P. R. R. Telegrapher Harte, chairman the D. A. S. above Phillipsburg, had been telling the men up that way that if they would join the D. A. S. they would get a raise in wages. When the "hand-out" occurred last March no one above Phillipsburg received any of it, Harte himself included. Harte did not like this, and took the matter up with Telegrapher Vetter, the D. A. S. man at Lambertville, N. J. Harte claimed Vetter said to him, "Well, now, boy, get busy and get these men all in the D. A. S. and you will all get something in the next advance." Harte was not satisfied with this, and said he wrote Vetter about as follows: "I have not received any advance at all yet, and I want it as promised, and so do my men. Now, I will give you 10 days to fix it up, or I will give the whole rotten shooting match away." It is said in a day or two Division Operator Cross and Telegrapher Vetter went to "CR" tower and held a long conference with Harte. Immediately after this the list was corrected to include two more towers on the upper end. It is not known how Harte was

fixed up, but Weaver suggests by a hand-out. At least Harte now seems very reticent and satisfied, 'tis said.

Fraternally,

T. E. ELLIS.

P. R. R. ALLEGED DISCRIMINATION AND COERCION ON ACCOUNT OF ITS EMPLOYEES' MEMBERSHIP IN CERTAIN LABOR ORGANIZATIONS.

PITTSBURGH, PA., February 5, 1913. Mr. G. Z. Stover, local chairman O. R. T., committee, Monongahela Division, P. R. R., address 243 Fifth Avenue, Pittsburgh, Pa., says as follows:

That A. G. Mitchell, superintendent P. R. R., Pittsburgh, Pa., said to him after calling him to his office last fall, that if he (Stover) expected any promotion on the P. R. R. he would have to withdraw from the Order of Railroad Telegraphers.

That if the company needed a train dispatcher and there were two men to pick from, one a member of the O. R. T., the other a nonmember, ability equal, the O. R. T. man having advantage in seniority, that the nonmember would be chosen for promotion over the O. R. T. member.

That there have been several men promoted over him, and none of them have better records and none of them more ability than he has; that he is absolutely sure this is due to his membership in the O. R. T. and his position as local chairman for the men.

That at one interview with Division Operator C. J. Isler, P. R. R., Pittsburgh, Isler told him (Stover) that the O. R. T. was not popular with the P. R. R. and would never be recognized by the company; that he understood the O. R. T. D. A. & S. was all right and being recognized by the company; that Stover was making a big mistake in his activities as local chairman. Stover declares he can name other instances in connection with these features. T. E. E.LLIS.

Mr. H. B. PERHAM,

PERHAM EXHIBIT NO. 11.

NATIONAL HOTEL, Washington, D. C., September 15, 1912.

President O. R. T., City.

DEAR SIR AND BROTHER: As per your instructions of the 9th instant, I addressed meetings on the P. R. R. at the following points: Harrisburg, Pa.; Williamsport, Pa.; Elmira, N. Y.; Latrobe, Pa.; Red Bank, Pa.; and Freeport, Pa. I found the men at all those places enthusiastic and ready to back up their committee to the extent of striking if it becomes necessary. They have every confidence in the committee and yourself.

From personal talks with the prominent men of each of the divisions that I visited and my personal observation I am of the opinion that 90 per cent or better will strike should one be called.

The officials have visited every employee, and in some instances, especially the ladies and old employees, have endeavored to intimidate them into saying they would not strike. The ladies were told they would never be permitted to work again and the old employees were advised that they would lose all rights in old-age pension fund if they struck.

Employees who have been superannuated by the Pennsylvania R. R. Voluntary Relief Association have been advised that they would be expected to return to the company's service should a strike take place.

In the territory I visited you can depend upon the employees walking out if a strike is called.

The company's organization cuts no figure in that territory, as there are no members worth mentioning out there; I only learned of two of them.

Yours, fraternally,

J. A. NEWMAN, First Vice President O. R. T.

Mr. H. B. PERHAM,

President, City.

DEAR SIR AND BROTHER: Within the past week I have addressed meetings of Pennsylvania employees in the telegraph department at Greenwood, Del.;