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RAILROAD RETIREMENT AND RAILROAD UNEMPLOY

MENT INSURANCE ACTS AMENDMENTS

HEARINGS

BEFORE A

SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE COMMITTEE ON LABOR AND PUBLIC WELFARE

UNITED STATES SENATE

EIGHTIETH CONGRESS

SECOND SESSION

ON

S. 994, S. 2055, S. 2228, S. 2300,

S. 2423, S. 2437, and S. 2438
BILLS RELATIVE TO THE RAILROAD RETIREMENT

ACT AMENDMENTS

MAY 19, 20, AND 21, 1948

Printed for the use of the Committee on Labor and Public Welfare

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COMMITTEE ON LABOR AND PUBLIC WELFARE

ROBERT A. TAFT, Ohio, Chairman

GEORGE D. AIKEN, Vermont

ELBERT D. THOMAS, Utah JOSEPH H. BALL, Minnesota

JAMES E. MURRAY, Montana H. ALEXANDER SMITH, New Jersey CLAUDE PEPPER, Florida WAYNE MORSE, Oregon

ALLEN J. ELLENDER, Louisiana
FORREST C. DONNELL, Missouri

LISTER HILL, Alabama
WILLIAM E. JENNER, Indiana
IRVING M. IVES, New York

PHILIP R. RODGERS, Clerk

SUBCOMMITTEE ON RAILROAD RETIREMENT AND RAILROAD UNEMPLOYMENT

INSURANCE AMENDMENTS
IRVING M. IVES, New York, Chairman

WAYNE MORSE, Oregon
WILLIAM E. JENNER, Indiana

II

ALLEN J. ELLENDER, Louisiana
LISTER HILL, Alabama

CONTENTS

I. ALPHABETICAL LIST OF WITNESSES

Page Bromsen, Archibald, representative, the Railroad Pension Conference... 150 Fort, Carter, vice president and general counsel of the Association of American Railroads.--.

73 Jones, J. R., secretary-treasurer, Nashville Division 473, International Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers.

139 Kennedy, William J., Chairman, Railroad Retirement Board..

2 Musher, Joseph, actuary, Railroad Retirement Board.

41 Parmelee, J. H., vice president, Association of American Railroads...91, 112, 163 Schoene, Lester P., counsel, Railway Labor Executives' Association. 53, 132 Schreiber, David B., associate general counsel, Railroad Retirement Board

48, 166 Squire, Frank C., member, Railroad Retirement Board.

31, 168 Whitley, Mrs. Edythe, chairman, Tennessee Railroad Pensioners

140 II. CHRONOLOGICAL LIST OF WITNESSES Wednesday, May 19, 1948: William J. Kennedy, Chairman, Railroad Retirement Board.

2 Frank C. Squire, member, Railroad Retirement Board.

31 Joseph Musher, actuary, Railroad Retirement Board.

41 David B. Schreiber, associate general counsel, Railroad Retirement Board..

48 Thursday, May 20, 1948:

Lester P. Schoene, counsel, Railway Labor Executives' Association.. 53 Carter Fort, vice president and general counsel of the Association of American Railroads.

73 J. H. Parmelee, vice president, Association of American Railroads,- 91 Friday, May 21, 1948:

J. H. Parmelee, vice president, Association of American Railroads. 112, 163
Lester P. Schoene, counsel, Railway Labor Executives' Association.. 132
J. R. Jones, secretary-treasurer, Nashville Division 473, International
Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers..

139
Mrs. Edythe Whitley, chairman, Tennessee Railroad Pensioners. 140
Archibald Bromsen, representative, the Railroad Pension Conference - 150
David B. Schreiber, associate general counsel, Railroad Retirement
Board

166 Frank C. Squire, member, Railroad Retirement Board.

168 III. LIST OF STATEMENTS AND COMMUNICATIONS Souby, James M., general solicitor, Association of American Railroads,

statement of Stewart, Hon. Tom, a United States Senator from the State of Tennessee,

letter of, addressed to Senator Ives, in re increased pensions for railroad employees

111

74

APPENDIX
Hawkes, Hon. Albert W., a United States Senator from the State of New

Jersey, statement of...
Lacey, E. F., executive secretary, the National Industrial Traffic League,

Washington, D. C., letter of, addressed to Senator Ives, in re railroad re-
tirement and railroad unemployment benefits.

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ELBERT D. THOMAS, Utah JOSEPH H. BALL, Minnesota

JAMES E. MURRAY, Montana H. ALEXANDER SMITH, New Jersey CLAUDE PEPPER, Florida WAYNE MORSE, Oregon

ALLEN J. ELLENDER, Louisiana
FORREST C. DONNELL, Missouri

LISTER HILL, Alabama
WILLIAM E, JENNER, Indiana
IRVING M. IVES, New York

PHILIP R. RODGERS, Clerk

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I. ALPHABETICAL LIST OF WITNESSES

Page
Bromsen, Archibald, representative, the Railroad Pension Conference.. 150
Fort, Carter, vice president and general counsel of the Association of

American Railroads.-
Jones, J. R., secretary-treasurer, Nashville Division 473, International
Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers.-

139 Kennedy, William J., Chairman, Railroad Retirement Board.

2 Musher, Joseph, actuary, Railroad Retirement Board.

41
Parmelee, J. H., vice president, Association of American Railroads._.91, 112, 163
Schoene, Lester P., counsel, Railway Labor Executives' Association. --53, 132
Schreiber, David B., associate general counsel, Railroad Retirement
Board

48, 166 Squire, Frank C., member, Railroad Retirement Board.

-31, 168 46. (Whitley, Mrs. Edythe, chairman, Tennessee Railroad Pensioners.

140
II. CHRONOLOGICAL LIST OF WITNESSES
Wednesday, May 19, 1948:
William J. Kennedy, Chairman, Railroad Retirement Board..

2 Frank C. Squire, member, Railroad Retirement Board

31 Joseph Musher, actuary, Railroad Retirement Board.

41 David B. Schreiber, associate general counsel, Railroad Retirement Board...

48 Thursday, May 20, 1948:

Lester P. Schoene, counsel, Railway Labor Executives' Association.. 53
Carter Fort, vice president and general counsel of the Association of
American Railroads...

73 J. H. Parmelee, vice president, Association of American Railroads. 91 Friday, May 21, 1948:

J. H. Parmelee, vice president, Association of American Railroads. -112, 163
Lester P. Schoene, counsel, Railway Labor Executives' Association - 132
J. R. Jones, secretary-treasurer, Nashville Division 473, International
Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers.

139
Mrs. Edythe Whitley, chairman, Tennessee Railroad Pensioners. 140
Archibald Bromsen, representative, the Railroad Pension Conference 150
David B. Schreiber, associate general counsel, Railroad Retirement
Board.

166 Frank C. Squire, member, Railroad Retirement Board

168 III. LIST OF STATEMENTS AND COMMUNICATIONS Souby, James M., general solicitor, Association of American Railroads, statement of

74 Stewart, Hon. Tom, a United States Senator from the State of Tennessee,

letter of, addressed to Senator Ives, in re increased pensions for railroad
employees

111
APPENDIX
Hawkes, Hon. Albert W., a United States Senator from the State of New
Jersey, statement of

171 Lacey, E. F., executive secretary, the National Industrial Traffic League,

Washington, D. C., letter of, addressed to Senator Ives, in re railroad re-
tirement and railroad unemployment benefits..

173

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