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couragement should be given to the of this eminent man formed a fine planting of potatoes, which would contrast to the violence of him who grow in soils unfit for the cultivation aspired to be his antagonist.-In anof grain. The fisheries constitute ano. swer to some objections which had ther important source of supply; al been started by preceding speakers, though it is a singular circumstance the Chancellor of the Exchequer said, that in a maritime country, such as “ that there was a real necessity for this, fish is rarely to be seen, except at erecting new barracks for the Life the tables of the rich, the poor recei. Guards. Government had been acving little or no benefit from so nutri- tually ejected from the possession tious an aliment. There may be some of the present ones, and was obliged prejudices against it; but the exertions to make a new agreement with the of gentlemen in the different districts lessor, paying an annual addition of of the country, if rightly directed, 9501. for the convenience of remainmight remove them. Mr Rose conclus ing in them two or three years longer ded, by remarking, that every encou.
till others were built. The system ragement was due to any plan which of having the men diffused over the promised to introduce a variety of nu- metropolis, away from their horses and tritious food amongst the lower orders, accoutrements, he thought a very re. to save a sum of 3,500,000l. annually prehensible one. What might have, to the country, increase its agricul- been the consequences, had such a ture, and, by extending its fisheries, system been in practice during the late employ 100,000 persons in that way, disturbances ? Might not the men have which, more than any other, tended to been intercepted by the mob from uphold the naval greatness of the em- reaching their stables, and the peace pire.
of the capital have been most seriously In a committee of supply, Mr endangered ?-The honourable gentleWharton moved that a sum, not ex
man imagined, that it would be a work ceeding 554,4411. be granted for the of bad taste, but he could assure him, expenses of the barrack department for that he was not conscious of any unthe current year.-In the proposed necessary expense. With respect to grant, a sum of 198,0001. was inclu- the barracks at Bristol, it would be ded as the estimated expense of a new
hard to ascertain what sort of building barrack to be built in the Regent's it should be which was to last during Park, for the second regiment of Life the war, if that was a principle of liGuards; and various smaller sums for mitation which the house would be innew buildings of the same kind to clined to adopt. If a barrack was to be erected at Liverpool, Bristol, and be built there, considering the extent Brighton. Strong objections were and population of the town, considermade to some of these grants : in con- ing also the accommodation it would sequence of which, a debate of a very afford to the military passing to and singular character arose, of which it from Ireland, he thought it should not. would be impossible to offer an abridge- be built upon any parsimonious scale. ment without doing injustice to all the The money that was thrown
away unspeakers. Mr Whitbread seized the der this denomination of expenditure, opportunity for attacking the govern- was chiefly applied to the purchase of ment; and with the ebullitions of his temporary barracks, which were now patriotism, mixed some personal re- in want of repair. As to Liverpool, Alections on the character of the chief it was considered to be a great inconminister. The mildness and dignityvenience that there should be no base
rack there; and with regard to the cient controul.-But did the right ho. expedient of hiring the warehouses for nourable the Chancellor of the Exche. that purpose, he hardly thought that quer think that he wanted military government would be justified in ta- controul over the people of this counking advantage, as it were, of the try? Even at the end of the war, which temporary suspension of trade in that the right honourable gentleman seem. place."
ed to think would last long, and which Mr Whitbread said, “ that the right he was sure would last as long as the honourable gentleman appeared to him career of the right honourable gentle. to have adopted erroneous views upon man, would it be necessary for us to the subject, when he thought it of look forward to the prospect
of oversuch little consequence to separate the awing them? Was this a principle to soldiers from the people, as to be sur
be maintained ? Did any one ever hear prised at any objection to a grant for a minister coolly assert it? But the that purpose. The right honourable right honourable gentleman disapprogentleman had not argued that general ved of the idea of applying any of the question ; the time was gone by ; but warehouses of Liverpool to the pur. he would declare it as his sentiments pose of accommodating the military. that he was extremely jealous, and he He who had made the loom useless
, was sure the country at large was and the warehouse idle, who had spread jealous, of the separating system. It starvation and discontent, had disaphad been said, that great advantage proved of that which to him appeared was likely to be derived from the la a natural course of proceeding--that bours of the commissioners appointed of filling the warehouses with soldiers to audit General Delancey's accounts. for the purpose of controuling the Perhaps at the end of four or five people under the inflictions he had years, if the country should exist so brought on them and on the counlong under such financiers, that advan- try. But even although the right hotage would greatly increase with the nourable gentleman had been endeapractices that rendered it necessary. vouring to make the revenue come up But whence did the advantage arise ? to an hundred millions, did he think, What was the necessity under which or could he think, that for three years this boasted saving was made ? The more the country could go on as it want of care in the controuling power; was now going? If things proceeded the negligence and mismanagement of as they were now proceeding, if ex, those who, by proper application, penses continued to accumulate, and ought to have prevented the occur means to diminish, they must look for rence of evils instead of leaving us to relief to a peace with the enemy, a be obliged to the commissioners for peace which his measures had render. the ascertainment of their extent. It ed unavoidable. In the transactions was expected that if the commission. of past years he saw many great ers proceeded, many other defalcations glorious opportunities of ending this would appear.
To him this was not war neglected and lost, while, at preconsoling. An honourable gentleman sent, the system of the right honourahad stated once, that the Chancellor ble gentleman was calculated to proof the Exchequer was the victim of duce the necessity of peace by subthe departments, and the public were mission. But why was it necessary given to understand that the honoura. that the horse and 'the soldier should Ďle gentleman had left the treasury be more together now than at any through disgust at the want of a suffi- other time? Did
reason exist nowy
that did not exist before, why the sole country. When he brought forward
dier and the general population of the his arguments attributing the starvao country should be kept apart, or why tion he described to the conduct of
barracks, which he had always regard- government, did he really think there ed, in conformity with the opinions of was any thing in their manner of conthe most constitutional authorities, as ducting the war against France which
fortresses for controuling the king operated to produce the scarcity at : dom, should be multiplied and enlar- Liverpool ? Did he think there was
ged? As to the policy of it, merely any thing in it to call down the ven.
with regard to the soldier, he under: geance of Providence on our heads, * stood that when the men were on ser- and provoke him to deny the harvest
vice, those who came from regular to our hopes ? If not, how could the
barracks, were not so healthful as honourable gentleman shut his eyes to É others, so that even military purpo. what every man could see but himself,
ses were not likely to be served by and resort to those imputations, which it. One of the most lavish expenses no man, who was acquainted with the
under this head was incurred by the subject, could hesitate to reject ? He * purchase of old houses at Clifton, in a would own that in some inflammatory
ruined state, without a window ; but publications he had met with the tonow we were going back to Bristol pics to which the honourable gentle
again; to guard the French prisoners. man had alluded ; but he did not ex. 1
Would to God that they were all out pect that any member could be found of this country, whether we continue who would come down to that house at war or not !” The honourable gene for the purpose of making such statetleman concluded, with repeating his ments. The honourable gentleman had determination to vote against the reso- spoken of golden opportunities of malution.
king peace, which ministers had ne. The Chancellor of the Exchequer glected ; but he did not say, he could said, “ that the honourable gentleman not say, whether one of those oppor.
must be positive indeed upon the sub- tunities presented itself now; and if sject, and confirmed in the opinion he no such opportunity existed, where
had formed, when he thought it right was the policy in asserting, that there not only to censure the conduct of his was no salvation for the country but majesty's government, but to vote in peace? It would be impossible for against the resolutions before the com him to say so much against the peace mittee.”
he recommended, as by saying that we Mr Whitbread, in explanation, sta were unable to go on with the war. ted, that his objection went only to The honourable gentleman had always the grant for building barracks. said that he would not accept
peace The Chancellor of the Exchequer but upon honourable terms. If, then, proceeded to observe, “ that to refuse peace could not be obtained upon
ho. it without knowing whether the sole nourable terms, there was, according diers could be otherwise accommoda-' to the honourable gentleman's own ted, might be productive of much in- feelings, and those of the country, but convenience. He supposed, however, one alternative. Why then should the that by the debating strain which the honourable gentleman give the sanchonourable gentleman had thought tion of his authority to the opinion, proper to adopt, and the topics to, that the war could not be conducted, which he had resorted, he expected to and that we were only to look for do much towards tranquillizing the consolation to the event of the enemy
granting us peace ? Nothing could be ded the decrees were not to be ascribed more improper, nothing more unjust, to them, how was it fair to represent nothing more dangerous to the securi- them as the act of our own governty of the country, or more calculated ment? Was this his wisdom, was this to inflame the minds of the people un his policy, was this his patriotism? der the present high price of provi. The reasoning of the honourable gensions, than finging out opinions of tleman would go to turn all the rethis sort to the disadvantage of the sentment not against the enemy, but great contest in which we were enga. against the government ; and that too, ged. He would maintain, and he at a time when we were engaged in thought the honourable gentleman war with an enemy, who if the homight have been included amongst the nourable gentleman was not aware innumber of those who would insist up- tended our destruction, he must be ig. on the same doctrine, that if we could norant of what was known to every not obtain
peace upon honourable body else. From this country he had terms, we must maintain the war at all met with his most effectual check in hazards, and under all circumstances, the pursuit of his insatiable ambition, and to the last extremity. As to what and in his progress to universal empire had been said of his intention to keep and universal tyranny, his certain disthe people down by a military force, appointment. "If the honourable when he had driven them to madness tleman did not see this, and he trusted by his policy, he would ask where was in God that he did not, when he callthe proof? In that candour of mind, ed upon the country not to look to in which he hoped the honourable gen- Buonaparte and to France, but to its tleman was not deficient, he might own government, with indignation, and have acknowledged, for he must have ascribed the infictions of Providence known, that it was at least a matter of to them alone ; if he did not see this, serious doubt, whether all the difficul. but could make such statements with ties experienced in our trade, would a conviction that he was doing right, not have been aggravated, if they were he was sure that such sentiments would not met by the orders in council. In meet with little sympathy and little two years after the adoption of those support.'
(Loud and continued orders, this fact was demonstrated by cheers.) an increase of our trade. Yet the ho Mr Whitbread rose, evidently in nourable gentleman went on with his great agitation, and began by decla
. old proof, or rather with his old state- ring, “ that if he were not in that house
, ment, in defiance of this striking fact, he would a sk the warmest friend, or and insisted that our sufferings were the loudest cheerer of the right hon. not owing to the decrees of the ene- gentleman, whether the whole of his my, but to our own orders in council
. speech was not a gross misrepresenta: If this was logic, he was sure it was tion? The right hon. gentleman was not a logic which the honourable gen- mistaken if he supposed that he had tleman would apply to any other sub. obtained a victory over him. No: ject; this confusion of cause and ef
was a victory over his own invention. fect, this anticipation of consequence The house of commons was a fine over the means that produced it, could, place—the constitution of England in no other than a political case, have was a great thing—every thing warped the mind of the honourable be admired, respected, and supported, gentleman. But if he was right in sup- when an adventurer from the bar was posing that the effects which prece. raised by his talent for debate to a
great situation, but a great situation identify the government with the miwhich nobody but himself would have nistry, and convert the fair claims of accepted under such circumstances." the former to support and attachment,
The Chancellor of the Exchequer into a blind approbation of the meahere signified his dissent from the state. sures of the latter. Whatever might ment that nobody would have accept. be the construction put upon his words, ed the situation but himself.
he was determined ever to speak out in Mr Whitbread repeated the state. the house of commons, to conceal no ment, maintained the truth of it, and part of the truth, and to lend no help. added, “ If you doubt me, I refer you ing hand to the delusion, any more for information to a letter signed Spen- than to the ruin of the people. He cer Perceval.” (Loud cries of, order, knew nothing more likely to prove de. from all parts of the house, followed structive to the safety and greatness of this expression, and Mr Whitbread at the people than the prevalence of a diftempted for some time in vain to be ferent doctrine. He did not confound heard.)
the visitations of Providence with the Mr Yorke rose to order. The hon. decrees of France, or the measures of gentleman had just made one of the the right hon. gentleman. But he knew most outrageous personal attacks on that thousands of manufacturers were his right hon. friend which had ever now out of employment, and that tens been heard in that house. With re. of thousands were now working at respect to the justice or propriety of the duced wages, which scarcely sufficed attack thus made, he
to procure them subsistence. He knew Mr Ponsonby rose to order (Here that an unreformed house of commons the disorder became general, and cries had approved of all the proceedings of Chair! Chair ! resounded through of the right honourable gentleman, the house ; at length Mr Ponsonby ob- and of all his orders in council, but tained a hearing)--" I call the right he knew too, that the people and the hon. gentleman himself to order, and merchants out of the house, were, in
on this ground, that he having risen to every part of the kingdom, of very t call
my hon. friend to order, did not different opinions. Was not this table confine himself to that point, but already covered with petitions that thought proper to advert to other to. daily multiplied; and had he indeed pics, thereby transgressing the regula- abandoned all his patriotism when he tions of the house. I speak this be- stated this ? As to what he had said fore high authority, who will contra- with respect to peace, how was it posdict me if I should be incorrect.” sible for him to speak positively as to
Mr Lushington, the chairman, then the fitness of the present moment; but declared his opinion to be, that Mr how could any time be found approWhitbread had been out of order. priate unless the experiment were
Mr Whitbread got up again, and made ? Would the right hon. gentle" confessed he had risen in some heat, man, looking back to that history in and unconsciously at the time had ex which he was so well read, pronounce ceeded the limits of debate. He would it to be his opinion that we were here. however
say, that if he was described after likely to obtain such desirable as having told the people that they conditions of peace as might have been were to regard the government rather obtained at any former periods ? The than Buonaparte as their enemy, it was right hon. gentleman boasted of our a gross misrepresentation. Unfortu. being the great and only barrier to nately it was too much a practice to Buonaparte's desire of universal domi